@SlimJim005 Where do you find stats for last year’s accepted OOS students?
@Essel Do you mind sharing if twin A or B (I also have multiples applying this year) were invited into honors or achieved Carolina scholars? I have no idea how competitive these things are from in-state students.
@nosleeep Scroll down to page two of this link: https://admissions.unc.edu/files/2018/10/Class-Profile_FINAL.pdf
Same issue here if you are in state from Orange County; the three High Schools here in Chapel Hill produce top students every year. ECHHS has over 20 valedictorians; the three schools churn out about 70 - 75 valedictorians so getting in from Chapel Hill Carrboro City Schools is as if you were OOS. Rural counties made up 40% of the in state admissions last year.
@southbend GPA for Valedictorian must be calculated differently in NC than what we are used to at our HS. Our HS calculates gpa based on every point being another tenth down (99 is a 4.9/5.0, 98 is a 4.8/5.0) & uses 3 decimal places for class rank. You don’t end up with 20 valedictorians then. They do also put an unweighted gpa on transcripts where each A is a 4.0/4.0, etc. I wonder if this calculation is part of why UNC has such a high percentage of incoming valedictorians. That percentage has scared us a little.
Chapel Hill Carrboro Schools weighted GPA is calculated based of A/B/C/D etc. 90 - 100 is and A, 80-89 is a B etc on a 10 point scale. So a student with a 90% gets a 5/5 weighted GPA and a 4/4 on an unweighted GPA so would a student with 100%. I guess that is why we have so many valedictorians!! So ranked 1st or 2nd in the cohort and the top 10% is taken!!
@blazinamazin2023 , I hope so! D2 applied instate with decent GPA but transferred schools in jr year and now is below 10% class rank. Sadly if she had stayed in the other school which was less challenging it would have been higher even though the school was less challenging academically.
Anybody know what it’s like for students applying from Guilford County?
Expecting a rejection, or waitlist:/ Reading about the OOS probabilities really brought me down
Holy hell I’m anxious…
@rafagirl2001 where did you read the oos admission stats/probabilities?
Do we find out this Friday the 25th? If so, what time?
@catmomof3 I’m just saying how everyone says it’s super hard for OOS to get in and I’m getting nervous. Not any actual stats or anything like that. Sorry for the confusion
I keep reading about Mecklenberg and Wake county… does anyone have info about Cabarrus?
@kaibab3 : Twin B, who was admitted right away, is in Honors Carolina, and a Research Scholar in the Excel Carolina Program. Twin A is in the Honors Program at State. I believe Honors Carolina is offered to around 400 students, and to under 200 kids at State.
Does anyone know if it’s harder to get in OOS to UMichigan (Ann-Arbor) or UNC? Or is it approximately the same? Because the overall UMich acceptance rate seems to be lower but the hype for OOS difficulty at UNC seems to be much greater. Asking because I got into UMich and I’m trying to gauge my chances for UNC.
Here are the different tiers of counties in North Carolina
https://www.nccommerce.com/research-publications/incentive-reports/county-tier-designations
It’s not as simple as Wake/Meck and Everyone Else or Urban v Rural. I’m from Chatham County, fairly rural with only 70k people, however were in the same thier as Wake.
@catmomof3 and @rafagirl2001 I am also OOS. You can look on page 2 of this link to find the OOS test scores:
https://admissions.unc.edu/files/2018/10/Class-Profile_FINAL.pdf
Also, I’ve written previously that I called last summer and got a very nice AO who spent time with me on the phone. She did not go over GPAs for OOS or Class Ranks. She just said very clearly - twice - that accepted OOS tend to have ACTs that hover around 34 and SATs that hover around 1500. She was nice, clear and emphatic. Again, she repeated it.
I know that’s not the only thing that they care about and admissions are holistic, but if you don’t have another hook (URM, Legacy, Athlete) as an OOS, I think it was a pretty clear signal of what hurdle you’d have to climb. These top quality State Universities (UNC, UVA, Michigan, Florida, UT-Austin, UC-whatever, Georgia Tech, etc) need unhooked OOS students to get their scores up and over the average. If they don’t report high test scores to US News, etc. then their ranking drops. They are required to take a lot of in-state students. So, the OOS have to be utilized for bringing up the test score average. I think if you are an unhooked OOS but you fall in the top quartile of higher of OOS test scores, then you’ve got a better shot. JMO.
@SlimJim005 When we’re talking about athlete hook, does it count if I’m not being recruited but I’m still getting help from the coach? I’m not quite sure if my application is labeled as an athlete or not, as for some reason the coaches have given me conflicting responses.
If you’re getting help from the coach, then I would think that is a form of recruitment. They may not be giving you any athletic scholarship dollars, but they must be whispering in the ear of the AO to tell them that you’re a guaranteed walk-on. However, if you aren’t planning on playing/running/whatever for UNC, then I seriously doubt you’d be getting any help from the coach.