<p>that 2nd suspect is 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
the same age as the kids we are on this site trying to get into college- Where are that boys parents?????????? Where are the people who should be obsessing over his future school? This story is devestatingly sad from every angle you look at it
not to excuse in any way thse boys reprehensible acts</p>
<p>I mentioned on the other thread about this-- but the local news is now saying that Lovett, the 17 year old, has now been charged with the murder of the Duke grad student who was killed recently. They already have someone in custody for that killing, but apparently Lovett was involved in that one, too. Looks like there's some cleaning up to do in these areas. This kid must have just been going around targeting students. They have a little news about him-- same old stuff-- nice boy, but his adoptive father died, and he fell apart and into trouble-- his mother tried to help, but there was nothing she could do-- yada yada. Yep-- nothing like the trouble he's in now, that's safe to say.</p>
<p>From CNN/WRAL:</p>
<p>"Lawrence Alvin Lovette Jr., 17, was arrested Thursday morning and charged with murder in UNC student Eve Carson's death. Authorities also charged him in connection with the shooting death of Duke student Abhijit Mahato, 29.</p>
<p>Durham police are now investigating whether Demario James Atwater, who was also charged in Carson's death, is somehow involved with Mahato's killing."</p>
<p>wow</p>
<p>"Does anyone know if the case of the Duke grad student who was shot and killed not that long ago remains unsolved? I believe he was an international science major and was killed in or near a university apartment complex." [posted March 6]</p>
<p>they WERE connected</p>
<p>L. Fortissimo: Yes, it's scary to think that these 2 have been freely walking around since the killing of the Duke grad student. They do have someone already in custody for that killing, but it does look like these 2 were involved as well.</p>
<p>I know, ya gotta say, if only....if only they had caught these two sooner, we would still have Eve. I'm not blaming anyone just really sad</p>
<p>I'm also not saying there is no one to blame, because I agree with the comments about how these guys were dangerous and shouldn't have been out there...so it's a mess, that's all I can say</p>
<p>Yes, it is. Too bad they were out on parole. Our prisons are so overcrowded, they don't want to keep people in them anymore, so they let them out as soon as they can. Sadly.</p>
<p>This country has more people in prisons than any in the world. Maybe some countries don't report, and probably kill criminals outright-- but we need to do something in this country long, long before those "at risk" get to be teenagers-- to turn their lives around before they get to this point where they can freely kill the innocent and not think twice about it..</p>
<p>right, we cross-posted and I totally agree</p>
<p>L. Fortissimo -</p>
<p>wow</p>
<p>"Does anyone know if the case of the Duke grad student who was shot and killed not that long ago remains unsolved? I believe he was an international science major and was killed in or near a university apartment complex." [posted March 6]</p>
<p>they WERE connected</p>
<p>Yes, it appears they were, L. Fortissimo. Two suspects in Mahato's death were arrested towards the end of January. I don't like to speculate, but it appears the two arrested never implicated anyone else.</p>
<p>Suspect</a> in Student's Death, 2nd Man Charged in Series of Robberies :: WRAL.com</p>
<p>amazing article, Westcoastmon, thanks for posting that link</p>
<p>Here's another story linking the two murders to Lovette: 2nd</a> Carson suspect charged in Duke killing.</p>
<p>I was reading some articles about the murder of Mahato and robbery seems to be a common occurrence in Durham. This article was dated like January 25, 2008 and they had already had 70 robberies since January 1, 2008. This seems like a lot to me. It said that two days after Mahato was murdered that a Duke student and a professor were held at gun point and robbed. This is really scary and I have not heard anything about any of this - the murder in January plus the student and professor being robbed at gun point. I am sure there have been a lot more robberies we do not know about. My daughter goes to Carolina and you would think they would have been sent an email about the graduate student being murdered or the robberies, so they could have been more careful - Carolina is not that far from Duke. If Duke or Durham would have given it more attention, then maybe all the people involved could have been caught. I read another article that said staff at Carolina were worried about a shelter home beside UNC campus that had at least 3 convicted sex offenders living there - they said they should be living at least 1000 feet from any school. You would think if you are trying to live a better life then you would not go live beside a campus where you will be around a lot of young people daily - really scary.</p>
<p>alcook4u - you can see the Warnings for Duke University here:</p>
<p>Police</a> News</p>
<p>And I agree, Durham police should have caught Mahato's murderer earlier, but the community was told by the Durham Chief of Police that the murderer was caught!</p>
<p>Here is a link to the North Carolina Registry for Sex Offenders:</p>
<p>Someone just sent this to me, so I thought I'd post. It's a well-written article in the Independent (a Durham paper) about Eve. The author had been on a study-abroad program with her in Cuba. Hope you can access the link. Maybe this should be on another thread, but here it is.
Independent</a> Weekly: Eve Marie Carson: 1985-2008</p>
<p>I can't get over the sadness of this story. Two young, promising lives snuffed out. I keep thinking how the parent's funeral seats could have been occupied by any of us. Makes my hugs just a bit tighter and longer. Not that I think parents can accept all the responsibility for the way their kids turn out, but I'm really thankful that I had good role models in my life and that my DS/DD have made good choices in their lives. </p>
<p>The piece that jumps out at me is the contrasting lives of the two segments of the population involved here. Two young people who had bright futures, great goals, already had accomplished some pretty amazing things in their young lives and who, no doubt, had loving parents/other adults in their lives who had inspired them to work hard and do good work. Contrast this picture with the lives of the two suspects who were, at least on the surface--from what we know, aimless and up to no good. I hurt for the rutterless young people, too--who on some level thought their only options in life were to take advantage of other people, with little or no thought given to the consequences. NOT that I would dream of defending their actions...It's just so unfortunate that a young person takes this path, sees himself in such a dim light so early on and ends up making choices that ruin his own life and the lives of so many others. Just a sad, sad thing. Can't help but wonder where we as a society have gone wrong....</p>
<p>Thanks for listening. I found it therapeutic for me to 'verbalize' my thoughts on this one.</p>
<p>Panhandlegal: I agree with what you posted. I do think that we need to somehow reach these people in their early youth-- long before they ever even contemplate the most minor of crimes. I hold no empathy for these 2 killers-- at all-- but I have to believe their growing-up years must be so far removed from our own realities that it's difficult to even imagine. How does one spend only 17 years on this earth, and systematically kill like that?</p>
<p>I do think this is one of the saddest and most tragic events I have ever encountered. Someone did mention to me the other day that Eve's spirit will live on in so many, many people, and that this was a real comfort to her (and others).</p>
<p>I posted this on another thread, but the DTH posted that the Durham judge who presided over Lovett's court appearance this morning has now asked Gov Easley and Lt Gov Perdue to push for anti-gang legislation.</p>
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FRIDAY 11:45 A.M. -- Durham Judge Craig Brown asked Gov. Mike Easley and Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue to push for anti-gang legislation today after presiding over the first court appearance for one of the two men charged in Student Body President Eve Carson's shooting death.</p>
<p>Lawrence Alvin Lovette, 17, appeared in Durham County District Court at about 10:40 a.m. to answer to charges of first degree murder and robbery in the January shooting death of Duke University graduate student Abhijit Mahato and unrelated charges of robbery and larceny in a Feb. 19 incident.</p>
<p>Police have said they do not know of any gang affiliation for Lovette. </p>
<p>Lovette also will appear in Orange County District Court at about 3 p.m. today for the first-degree murder charges in the Carson shooting. His name is listed as Lawrence Lovett in Orange County files.</p>
<p>After setting Lovette's bond at $3 million, Brown stood up and, through the media, asked Easley and Purdue to call a special session of the state legislature to consider anti-gang measures. Brown said he has degrees from both UNC and Duke.</p>
<p>He said that legislation is "absolutely, positively" necessary, but that it must both provide strict punishment for offenders and address the underlying causes of gang membership.</p>
<p>"From all the things I've heard about Eve Carson, she would want balanced legislation," Brown said.</p>
<p>Brown, who is blind, also said that this case is likely getting more media attention because Carson is white, and used his disability to help illustrate his committment to ensuring a fair trial.</p>
<p>"That's the law of the land, and that's what's going to happen here," he said.
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<p>Daily</a> Tar Heel</p>
<p>"I can't get over the sadness of this story. Two young, promising lives snuffed out."</p>
<p><em>sigh</em></p>
<p>Indeed.</p>