<p>this has probably already been answered several times, but i haven't been able to find it.
do med schools give any sort of edge to applicants from their own undergrad institutions? for example, would johns hopkins undergrads have any advantage in getting in to johns hopkins med school?</p>
<p>As I understand it, some schools look favorably on their own undergrads, while others do not.</p>
<p>Some actually disadvantage their own.</p>
<p>any examples for us BDM?</p>
<p>i think duke is one that disadvantages their own</p>
<p>I hear that JHU grads have high success getting into med school, but not into JHU med school</p>
<p>No one really knows which schools do what because the advantages/disadvantages are not so great that they would be obvious. It certainly shouldn't be a factor in choosing an undergrad.</p>
<p>The classic examples (by reputation) are Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, WUSTL, JHU, and Duke. However, I know that that's actually a myth at WUSTL and probably at Duke at well, although Duke does some weird things to its own kids. Northwestern and Emory are the famous ones for advantaging their own.</p>
<p>^You really think Feinberg takes that many NU undergrads though? They already have 35 HPME's. How many Northwestern kids could they possibly have?</p>
<p>Well, maybe its fame for that is actually a myth, much like WUSTL's disadvantage. Perhaps the HPME kids are what generated it in the first place.</p>
<p>I was looking at Columbia P&S' handbook. I counted 20 Columbia undergrads, 20 Harvard undergrads, and 19 Yale undergrads in its Class of 2011 (roughly 140 kids). Definitely an Ivy-whore as its reputation dictates but not overwhelmingly from its own undergrad.</p>
<p>If -- as is almost certainly the case -- Columbia undergrads are vastly more likely to apply and vastly more likely to matriculate, that does seem to me like it's putting its own at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>Goodness. Half their class is from three schools.</p>
<p>IT"S INCEST- morally wrong</p>
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I personally know of several JHU undergrads who have gotten into the med school.
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Of course, this tells you very little about the overall probability, especially given that students are usually more likely to apply and more likely to matriculate to their home schools.</p>
<p>Of course Hopkins loves Hopkins undergrads, as they're very well qualified students.</p>
<p>The question is twofold, however:
1.) Does Hopkins like its own undergrads more or less compared to undergrads from similarly excellent schools -- i.e. Columbia or Duke undergrads?
2.) Does Hopkins like its own undergrads more or less than other medical schools like them?</p>
<p>By rumor, the answer to each question is, "Less."</p>
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I also know students who are heading to Einstein, Columbia, NYU, Sophie Davis, and Harvard.
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<p>That's my point: maybe (at least, by reputation) the Hopkins kids are getting into Hopkins med because they're good students and despite their going specifically to JHU. On the other hand, of course, Harvard, Einstein, Columbia, NYU etc. might all like Hopkins grads quite a bit.</p>
<p>I heard that this last year, Johns Hopkins Medical School accepted the largest contingent of students from it's undergraduate arm; 19 students in total. </p>
<p>I do know however that JHMS requires it's own students (and possibly other students from schools other than JHU like MIT) to release uncovered grades for first semesters. I have friends at MIT that want to apply to JHMS but also realize that they must release their first semester pass/fail grades to JHMS.</p>
<p>We all know that first semester covered grades are just a disaster.</p>
<p>Again, even if that's true it doesn't necessarily mean anything -- what you want is the admissions percentage (a controlled one would be ideal), not the final number of matriculants.</p>
<p>One needs to consider who is applying and matriculating to their own medical schools. For instance, Harvard takes about 25 or so students out of 140 in the med school class-by far the largest representation. On the other hand, most Harvard undergrads accepted end up matriculating as they like staying in Boston and also the quality/reputation of the medical school. A signficant number of those not accepted still go to top medical schools; e.g., Columbia, Yale, Northwestern, etc. It is hard to know what the preference rankings for med schools are, particularly among the top students at Harvard. Perhaps some may choose JHU; others might choose UCSF or UCLA to be on the West Coast (esp. if California residents for tuition); others might choose a state school for lower tuition despite acceptance at Harvard Med. So while a disproportionate number of Harvard undergrads attend Harvard Med, the competition among them is quite fierce. What looks like preference may not actually be that, as those Harvard students accepted are mostly taken from the top 10% of their own undergraduate class. I would imagine a similar phenomenon may go on at a place like Duke as well. On the other hand, schools that have slightly lower reputation, may lose their top students to top medical schools. If there is a an over-representation in their med school classes, it may indeed indicate a slight favorable bias.</p>
<p>One of the major reasons why I choose to attend JHU as an undergrad is the opportunity to get close to world renown professors at the Johns Hopkins Medical school and have a chance to visit the Johns Hopkins Hospital, #1 hospital in the US 17 years and running.</p>