<p>does anyone know of any undergrad b-school rankings that are not from business week or the top three of usnews??</p>
<p>Here are the top 100+ for US News</p>
<p>Rank / School (5.0 = highest)
1. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8
2. Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.6
3. University of California-Berkeley (Haas) * 4.5
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor * 4.5
5. Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.2
New York University (Stern) 4.2
U. of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 4.2
University of Texas-Austin (McCombs) * 4.2
9. Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 4.1
University of Virginia (McIntire) * 4.1
11. Indiana University-Bloomington (Kelley) * 4
12. Cornell University (NY) 3.9
Purdue Univ.-West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)* 3.9
U. of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign * 3.9
Univ. of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Carlson) * 3.9
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison * 3.9
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 3.9
18. Emory University (Goizueta) (GA) 3.8
Ohio State University-Columbus (Fisher) * 3.8
Pennsylvania State U.-University Park (Smeal) * 3.8
University of Arizona (Eller) * 3.8
22. Michigan State University (Broad) * 3.7
Univ. of Maryland-College Park (Smith) * 3.7
University of Notre Dame (IN) 3.7
University of Washington * 3.7
26. Arizona State University (Carey) * 3.6
Babson College (MA) 3.6
Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC) 3.6
University of Florida (Warrington) * 3.6
30. Boston College (Carroll) 3.5
Case Western Reserve Univ. (Weatherhead) (OH) 3.5
Texas A&M Univ.-College Station (Mays) * 3.5
University of Georgia (Terry) * 3.5
Wake Forest University (Calloway) (NC) 3.5
35. Brigham Young Univ.-Provo (Marriott) (UT) 3.4
Georgia Institute of Technology * 3.4
Southern Methodist University (Cox) (TX) 3.4
University of Colorado-Boulder * 3.4
University of Iowa (Tippie) * 3.4
40. Boston University 3.3
Syracuse University (Whitman) (NY) 3.3
Tulane University (Freeman) (LA) 3.3
University of Arkansas (Walton) * 3.3
University of Pittsburgh * 3.3
Univ. of South Carolina-Columbia (Moore) * 3.3
Virginia Tech (Pamplin) * 3.3
47. Bentley College (MA) 3.2
College of William and Mary (VA)* 3.2
CUNY-Baruch College (Zicklin) * 3.2
Florida State University * 3.2
George Washington University (DC) 3.2
Georgia State University (Robinson) * 3.2
Miami University-Oxford (Farmer) (OH)* 3.2
Univ. of Missouri-Columbia * 3.2
University of Oklahoma (Price) * 3.2
University of Tennessee * 3.2
57. Auburn University (AL)* 3.1
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (Lally) (NY) 3.1
Santa Clara University (Leavey) (CA) 3.1
University of Alabama (Culverhouse) * 3.1
University of Kansas * 3.1
University of Kentucky (Gatton) * 3.1
Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln * 3.1
University of Oregon (Lundquist) * 3.1
University of Utah (Eccles) * 3.1
66. Baylor University (Hankamer) (TX) 3
DePaul University (IL) 3
Louisiana State U.-Baton Rouge (Ourso) * 3
North Carolina State U.-Raleigh * 3
Northeastern University (MA) 3
Pepperdine University (Graziadio) (CA) 3
Rochester Inst. of Technology (NY) 3
University of Connecticut * 3
University of Illinois-Chicago * 3
Univ. of Massachusetts-Amherst (Isenberg) * 3
77. Clemson University (SC)* 2.9
Iowa State University * 2.9
Rutgers-New Brunswick (NJ)* 2.9
San Diego State University * 2.9
Temple University (Fox) (PA)* 2.9
University at Buffalo-SUNY * 2.9
Univ. of California-Riverside * 2.9
University of Denver (Daniels) 2.9
University of Miami (FL) 2.9
University of Richmond (Robins) (VA) 2.9
87. American University (Kogod) (DC) 2.8
Colorado State University * 2.8
Fordham University (NY) 2.8
Lehigh University (PA) 2.8
Loyola University Chicago 2.8
Marquette University (WI) 2.8
Oklahoma State University * 2.8
St. Louis University 2.8
Texas Christian University (Neeley) 2.8
Texas Tech University (Rawls) * 2.8
University of Alabama-Birmingham * 2.8
University of Delaware * 2.8
University of Louisville (KY)* 2.8
University of Mississippi * 2.8
U. of North Carolina-Charlotte (Belk) * 2.8
University of San Diego 2.8
University of Texas-Dallas * 2.8
Villanova University (PA) 2.8
Washington State University * 2.8
106. George Mason University (VA)* 2.7
James Madison University (VA)* 2.7
Kansas State University * 2.7
Loyola Marymount University (CA) 2.7
University of Cincinnati * 2.7
University of Houston (Bauer) * 2.7
University of Texas-Arlington * 2.7
Univ. of Wisconsin-Milwaukee * 2.7
Virginia Commonwealth University * 2.7
Washington and Lee University (VA) 2.7
116. Ball State University (IN)* 2.6
California State U.-Los Angeles * 2.6
Creighton University (NE) 2.6
Drexel University (LeBow) (PA) 2.6
Hofstra University (Zarb) (NY) 2.6
Northern Illinois University * 2.6
Ohio University * 2.6
Oregon State University * 2.6
Pace University (Lubin) (NY) 2.6
Rutgers-Newark (NJ)* 2.6
San Jose State University (CA)* 2.6
Seton Hall University (Stillman) (NJ) 2.6
Southern Illinois U.-Carbondale * 2.6
SUNY-Albany * 2.6
SUNY-Binghamton * 2.6
Trinity University (TX) 2.6
University of Central Florida * 2.6
Univ. of Colo.-Colorado Springs * 2.6
University of Dayton (OH) 2.6
University of Memphis (Fogelman) * 2.6
Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City (Bloch) * 2.6
University of New Mexico (Anderson) * 2.6
University of San Francisco (McLaren) 2.6
West Virginia University * 2.6
Wichita State University (Barton) (KS)* 2.6
141. Bowling Green State University (OH)* 2.5
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo * 2.5
Florida International University * 2.5
Gonzaga University (WA) 2.5
John Carroll University (OH) 2.5
Kennesaw State University (Coles) (GA)* 2.5
Kent State University (OH)* 2.5
Loyola College in Maryland (Sellinger) 2.5
Loyola University New Orleans (Butt) 2.5
Mississippi State University * 2.5
Rutgers-Camden (NJ)* 2.5
Seattle University (Albers) 2.5
St. Joseph's University (Haub) (PA) 2.5
University of Alabama-Huntsville * 2.5
University of Colorado-Denver 2.5
University of Idaho * 2.5
Univ. of Missouri-St. Louis * 2.5
University of Nebraska-Omaha * 2.5
University of Nevada-Las Vegas * 2.5
University of New Hampshire (Whittemore) * 2.5
U. of North Carolina-Greensboro (Bryan) * 2.5
University of North Texas * 2.5
University of Rhode Island * 2.5
University of South Florida * 2.5
University of Tulsa (OK) 2.5
Xavier University (Williams) (OH)</p>
<ol>
<li> Pennsylvania (Wharton) Philadelphia Private 4 $ 32,364 2378 6 $ 55,000 1 100 1:8.8 1448 A+ A A+
Teaching quality, high-caliber classmates, and top recruiters draw raves. Environment is too competitive for some.</li>
<li> Virginia (McIntire) Charlottesville Public 2 $ 7,235 660 2 $ 50,000 4 98 1:11.0 1350 A+ A+ A+
Workload is intense, but students love the real-world core curriculum. Biggest strengths: finance and accounting.</li>
<li> Notre Dame (Mendoza) South Bend, Ind. Private 3 $ 31,540 1538 3 $ 47,500 11 97 1:14.0 1379 A+ A+ A+
Students praise the school's focus on ethics and say career- services office does a great job preparing students for business.</li>
<li> MIT (Sloan) Cambridge, Mass. Private 3 $ 32,300 292 4 $ 55,000 18 92 1:13.0 1477 A+ A+ A+
Praise for high quality classmates and recruiting efforts pushes Sloan to No. 4.</li>
<li> Emory (Goizueta) Atlanta Private 2 $ 30,794 550 1 $ 50,000 10 89 1:11.0 1333 A+ A+ A+
Students rave about well-rounded education but feel that the school attracts few top recruiters outside of the Southeast.</li>
<li> Michigan (Ross) Ann Arbor Public 2 $ 10,524 728 31 $ 52,000 14 88 1:12.8 1332 B C A+
Students benefit from small cohorts and the focus on job placement, but some say services are lacking.</li>
<li> NYU (Stern) New York Private 4 $ 32,540 2265 21 $ 52,000 6 85 1:11.5 1422 A B A+
NYC attracts recruiters and speakers, and international focus is a plus. But competitive classmates are a turn off.</li>
<li> Brigham Young (Marriott) Provo, Utah Private 3 $ 3,620 1792 7 $ 45,000 31 81 1:14.5 NA A A+ A
Stellar accounting program and ethics-based education wow many. But student body is 98% Mormon and may not be for everybody.</li>
<li> Texas (McCombs) Austin Public 4 $ 7,438 3999 13 $ 47,000 30 81 1:29.2 1304 A B A+
Well-respected honors program receives high marks, but some feel that educational quality elsewhere is uneven.</li>
<li>Indiana (Kelley) Bloomington Public 4 $ 7,112 3671 8 $ 44,000 26 80 1:20.0 1189 A A A+
Facilities need upgrading, but real-world curriculum and helpful career-services office catapults school into top 10.</li>
<li>North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler) Chapel Hill Public 2 $ 4,700 670 10 $ 45,000 7 79 1:6.8 1319 A A A
Resources and teaching get thumbs up at UNC, but out-of-the-way location hurts recruiting and diversity.</li>
<li>UC Berkeley (Haas) Berkeley, Calif. Public 2 $ 7,434 700 19 $ 53,000 8 79 1:7.4 1341 A A A
Program is challenging and rewarding, but lacks the MBA program's diverse student body and premier career services.</li>
<li>Georgetown (McDonough) Washington, D.C. Private 4 $ 31,656 1271 33 $ 50,000 12 79 1:16.8 1370 A+ C A
Teaching is first-rate and a new classroom facilitity is on the way. Some feel recruiting is too focused on financial firms.</li>
<li>Cornell Ithaca, N.Y. Private 4 $ 17,367 709 5 $ 45,000 32 79 1:16.9 NA A+ A+ A
Ivy League benefits include top-notch education and plenty of resources--although some classes are overcrowded.</li>
<li>Washington U. (Olin) St. Louis Private 4 $ 32,042 736 15 $ 50,000 16 77 1:11.0 1451 A A+ B
Faculty is talented and helpful, but many students feel not enough top companies recruit on campus.</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon Pittsburgh Private 4 $ 31,650 495 58 $ 55,000 2 75 1:5.0 1381 B C C
Focus on quantitative skills sometimes comes at expense of soft skills, but the program is becoming more well-rounded.</li>
<li>Miami U. (Farmer) Oxford, Ohio Public 4 $ 9,636 3975 32 $ 40,000 21 73 1:17.0 1230 B A B
Classes can be too large, but students give high marks to the new honors program's high-caliber professors and classmates.</li>
<li>Lehigh Bethlehem, Pa. Private 4 $ 31,180 1208 28 $ 50,000 13 71 1:20.1 1291 A B A
New financial-services lab and strong accounting program are impressive, but recruiting is too accounting-focused.</li>
<li>Villanova Villanova, Pa. Private 4 $ 29,730 1798 18 $ 45,000 22 70 1:19.0 1273 A+ B A
High marks go to committed professors and a curriculum rooted in the real world. But some say the student body lacks diversity.</li>
<li>SMU (Cox) Dallas Private 4 $ 26,880 939 9 $ 45,000 20 70 1:13.2 1339 A+ A+ A
Students praise the helpful career services center and small class sizes. Good mix of classmates is needed.</li>
<li>USC (Marshall) Los Angeles Private 4 $ 32,008 3822 22 $ 50,000 42 69 1:18.7 1351 A B A+
Students value the international focus and strong alumni network at Marshall, but many feel the grading curve is unfair.</li>
<li>Illinois Urbana-Champaign Public 4 $ 9,934 2916 37 $ 47,000 37 67 1:24.0 1300 C B A
A first-class accounting program and career services win praise, but overcrowded classes hurt teaching quality.</li>
<li>Boston College (Carroll) Boston Private 4 $ 30,950 2000 29 $ 47,000 24 67 1:23.0 1314 A A A
A well-rounded education based on Jesuit values leaves many satisfied. Academic advising could use improvement.</li>
<li>Wake Forest (Calloway) Winston-Salem, N.C. Private 2 $ 32,140 383 39 $ NA 9 67 1:11.0 1302 A+ A A
"They don't call it Work Forest for nothing," says one student of the challenging coursework and tough grading policy.</li>
<li>Richmond (Robins) Richmond, Va. Private 2 $ 34,850 594 46 $ 47,500 3 66 1:11.0 1315 A+ B B
Students heap praise on Richmond's hands-on teaching, but are disappointed with recruiting that's too regional.</li>
<li>Minnesota (Carlson) Minneapolis Public 4 $ 9,382 1621 24 $ 43,500 19 65 1:12.9 1283 B B A+
Students get outstanding career preparation, but say that the teaching is uneven and some courses are too easy.</li>
<li>Wisconsin Madison Public 2 $ 6,220 1213 16 $ 43,500 25 64 1:15.8 1260 B A A
Students praise the business career center and the "work hard, play hard" mentality of being a business major at UW.</li>
<li>Babson Babson Park, Mass. Private 4 $ 30,496 1725 48 $ 45,000 5 63 1:11.4 1263 A+ B B
Babson profs receive high marks, but intense business orientation leaves little room for anything else.</li>
<li>Michigan State (Broad) East Lansing Public 2 $ 9,218 2341 25 $ 43,000 48 63 1:22.0 NA B B A
Students give high marks to supply chain management program and Lear Career Services Center, but feel the teaching could use work.</li>
<li>Boston U. Boston Private 4 $ 31,966 1806 51 $ 45,000 15 62 1:18.0 1283 B B C
Students praise the program's team-based approach. But many say tough grading policies are a problem.</li>
<li>Bentley Waltham, Mass. Private 4 $ 28,614 3761 42 $ 42,500 17 62 1:12.0 1220 A B B
Small classes are a plus, but for some the recruiting is too focused on accounting and finance.</li>
<li>Penn State (Smeal) University Park, Pa. Public 4 $ 13,110 4797 23 $ 41,400 51 61 1:43.0 1197 B A A
Core courses can be overcrowded. But first-class trading floor and $4.7 million student-run investment fund are tops.</li>
<li>Texas Christian (Neeley) Ft. Worth Private 4 $ 26,140 1520 20 $ 48,148 34 60 1:17.8 1162 A A B
Professors receive high marks for being accessible and dedicated, but student body may lack diversity.</li>
<li>Texas A & M (Mays) College Station Public 4 $ 6,234 3831 12 $ 40,000 50 60 1:28.2 1218 B A+ A
Students enjoy the many extracurricular activities and clubs that the school offers. But academic advisers are in short supply.</li>
<li>James Madison Harrisonburg, Va. Public 4 $ 6,081 3464 14 $ 42,100 45 60 1:29.0 1167 A A+ B
Students enjoy program offered in the junior year that requires them to develop a business plan.</li>
<li>Maryland (Smith) College Park Public 4 $ 7,821 2703 30 $ 46,000 39 60 1:21.0 1360 B A B
Upper-level courses are far superior to lower-level courses, which include too many "straight-from-the-book" lectures.</li>
<li>Northeastern Boston Private 4 $ 28,800 3121 27 $ 45,000 29 59 1:25.0 1225 B A A+
Students are required to participate in as many as three six-month-long co-ops, or work projects, during the program; many find them valuable.</li>
<li>Baylor (Hankamer) Waco, Texas Private 4 $ 27,943 2508 17 $ 41,303 35 59 1:19.3 1169 A A+ B
Students praise a unique major that guarantees an internship with a professional sports team after completing the program.</li>
<li>Iowa (Tippie) Iowa City Public 4 $ 5,855 1435 44 $ 37,500 43 59 1:14.0 1176 C B C
Teaching quality varies greatly, but entrepreneurship program and new career center win praise.</li>
<li>Georgia (Terry) Athens Public 2 $ 16,848 2082 11 $ 40,000 49 59 1:19.0 1212 B A+ B
Some programs, such as accounting and risk management, receive high marks, but other students get lost in the shuffle.</li>
<li>George Washington Washington, D.C. Private 4 $ 36,387 1456 55 $ 42,750 23 54 1:24.0 1260 C B C
Some consider program "extremely overpriced," but being in the nation's capital adds value.</li>
<li>Syracuse (Whitman) Syracuse, N.Y. Private 4 $ 28,970 1510 50 $ 46,185 28 54 1:24.0 1191 B C C
Recruiters for financial services companies are few and far between, but profs are helpful with networking.</li>
<li>Ohio State (Fisher) Columbus Public 4 $ 8,718 2890 35 $ 42,000 54 54 1:28.0 1185 C A B
Honors accounting program is praised, but profs should spend more time teaching and less time on research.</li>
<li>U. of Miami Miami, Fla. Private 4 $ 21,587 1984 26 $ 42,000 46 52 1:30.0 1246 B B B
Mentoring program that pairs business majors with local executives wows students, but teaching quality varies.</li>
<li>Purdue (Krannert) W. Lafayette, Ind. Public 4 $ 8,032 2508 43 $ 40,841 44 51 1:23.4 1159 C B B
Teaching assistants are poor substitutes for real profs, but students leave management program well-prepared for the job hunt.</li>
</ol>
<p>Business
(1) Stanford University
(2) Massachusetts Institute of Technology
(3) University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
(4) Northwestern University (Kellogg) (Ill.)
(5) Harvard University
(6) University of Chicago
(7) Dartmouth College (Tuck) (N.H.)
(8) Columbia University
(9) Duke University (Fuqua) (N.C.)
(10) University of California at Berkeley
(11) University of Virginia (Darden)
(12) University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
(13) New York University (Stern)
(14) Carnegie Mellon University (Pa.)
(15) Cornell University (Johnson) (N.Y.)
(16) University of California at Los Angeles
(17) University of N.C. at Chapel Hill (Kenan- Flagler)
(18) University of Texas at Austin
(19) Yale University
(20) Indiana University at Bloomington</p>
<p>Business Administration 14
1. Pennsylvania
2. M.I.T
3. Indiana (Bloomington)
4. Michigan (Ann Arbor)
5. Calfornia, Berkeley
6. Illinois (Urbana)
7. N,Y.U
8. Purdue (Lafayette)
9. Texas (Austin)
10. Wisconsin (Madison)
11. Virginia
12. North Carolina (Chapel Hill)
13. Washington (Seattle)
14. Michigan State</p>
<p>Good LUCK</p>
<p>HPM_twista,
Your first list is not for UNDERGRAD business program.</p>
<p>Where did you get the second list? Btw, what's the difference between Business and Business Admin?</p>