<p>I wouldn't recommend courses like "leadership", "xyz management", or "organizational behavior" when you haven't had any working experience. Courses like accounting and finance are fine to me, however.</p>
<p>At Berkeley, if you kick a** in math, take the math-heavy economics major and you can write your ticket anywhere. But if I could choose between the non-heavy-math and Haas, I'd probably go with Haas. But again, business is a waste of undergrad education to a certain extent, in the opinion of a lot of people.</p>
<p>You can't go wrong with any of those schools....except ASU lol</p>
<p>Actually, ASU has a fairly strong economics dept, esp. micro/game thoery and macro's not too shabby either. lol</p>
<p>Yeah they do have Prescott, that Nobel winner guy who is in Macroeconomics.</p>
<p>Yeah they do have Prescott, that Nobel winner guy who is in Macroeconomics.</p>
<p>Yes, Prescott is there. However, he is not very accessable, esp. for undergrads.</p>
<p>"Yes, there're some very, very smart people study undergrad business and do very well at very prestigious schools. Which is why it's also very, very sad."</p>
<p>Hey abcboy, you didn't take my advice. You still haven't gotten laid yet huh......speaking of sad....now that's very, very sad.</p>
<p>lol, you mock my "very, very" quote when I mock it off someone else. Learn to pay attention, or read, smartass.</p>
<p>And I love how you go out and claim if someone you dislike have been laid before. Do you stalk me 24/7? Or are you just stupidly guessing, as usual? Trust me, you don't know me, not a thing. And what's your advise? Have you even given me any, if so, it sucks since I never gave a damn. And you could keep it to yourself since it probably haven't gotten you any anyways. If next time you want to act like a fool, call 911 so they can send you to a mental hospital. That might help the society prosper and you might actually do a favour for this world. Ya, you will, amusing, isn't it?</p>
<p>Just more reasons why people like you should be replaced with the poor child in Africa. At least they're more deserving because they don't 'laid' crap everywhere.</p>
<p>Or maybe you presumed that I'm not getting laid while I'm typing? Well, Truman, you're correct. I don't get laid while I'm typing. Maybe you do but that's what I do not do. Maybe that's what everyone do in your college? I'm not really sure. But if you do, you must be having some really crazy sex life that, apparently, I don't really crave for. So please, just keep your ''adivse'' to yourself.</p>
<p>Let's get over this ''laid'' topic, shall we, the guy's looking for ''advises'' on deciding which degree is right for him, not how we should get ''laid''. You should save your valuable comments to someplace more... you know.</p>
<p>Abcboy,
First off, learn to write grammatically correct English. What are you, an ESL student? </p>
<p>Second, before you start mentioning the “lack of intellect” involved in a business program, maybe you should develop an intellect of your own. A truly intellectual/intelligent person argues and debates in an educated fashion. You on the other hand do not as you only provide one angle of an argument…you are continually critical of the entire discipline of business, yet don’t ever provide a sound alternative/solution. </p>
<p>What should these people do as an alternative/solution to majoring in business?? Should the entrie field of business be abolished?? Should business majors instead major in engineering/the sciences?? What's your solution wiseguy? If you have the correct answer to that then you must be God because there is NO answer as each individual’s situation varies. Consequently, what you basically do when you bash against business on these business threads is bad mouth. That’s all you’re doing, BAD MOUTHING. Only morons continually do that.</p>
<p>Finally, I’m not saying to go engage in a crazy sex life…just get laid ONCE in your life for heaven sakes, or simply try to find a date for Saturday night. Maybe you wouldn’t have to vent all your frustrations trolling around on these threads bad mouthing the entire field of business. Just try to get a life!!</p>
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You can't go wrong with any of those schools....except ASU lol
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ASU's business program is excellent.</p>
<p>^^in the world of business that statement is irrelevant. If you don't have recruiters coming to your school, you won't get the good jobs.</p>
<p>Abcboy has been officially owned and should refrain from further posting in this thread. Could we please now return to reasonable discussion.</p>
<p>Gonsenheim, that's not true. McKinsey doesn't recruit at my school yet it is quite common for graduates from here to end up working as consultants with them. Assuming consulting counts as a good job in your mind...</p>
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^^in the world of business that statement is irrelevant. If you don't have recruiters coming to your school, you won't get the good jobs.
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Completely agree. Rankings don't matter at all for business schools. The whole point of business school is to get a job so the REAL rankings should be based on the strength of the recruitment. For example, ASU is ranked above Georgetown for business, but do you actually think ppl who get into both schools will go to ASU? I doubt it. The better brand name of Georgetown brings in better recruiters, and in the end, thats all that matters.</p>
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Gonsenheim, that's not true. McKinsey doesn't recruit at my school yet it is quite common for graduates from here to end up working as consultants with them. Assuming consulting counts as a good job in your mind...
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Which school do you go to, and what do you consider "common."</p>
<p>in reference to ASU</p>
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^^in the world of business that statement is irrelevant. If you don't have recruiters coming to your school, you won't get the good jobs.
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<p>They may not have investment banks recruiting, but mckinsey DOES present at the school as of last year. They also have others recruiting such as navigant (cant really remember any more of there big names, but i would say 3-4 more). For the entire school, not just business, over 500 companies recruit on campus (most however are for business)</p>
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better recruiters, and in the end, thats all that matters.
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<p>This is purely your personal opinion. ASU brings more companies on campus when compared to Georgetown. But instead of considering this, you are using your opinion and making a generalization for the 50k + students that go to ASU.</p>
<p>I'm not just talking about the job opportunities at ASU (which are plentiful). The teachers at ASU in the business program are outstanding. Most have a lot of real world experience and are surprising accessible. There's even one business teacher who goes to the sporting events and sits in the students section. How cool is that? ASU's business program is underrated. I'm not basing my opinion on US News' rankings; I'm going by what friends who have graduated from the program have told me.</p>
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This is purely your personal opinion. ASU brings more companies on campus when compared to Georgetown.
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Well the important factor is not necessarily the quantity of companies, but the quality of companies. I mean let's face it, there's no denying that the companies and positions that companies recruit for at Georgetown are far superior to those that ASU. In business, the most important factor is brand name of the school, and in that aspect, Georgetown dominates ASU regardless of the US News Business rankings.</p>
<p>Is Intel a bad company? Microsoft? Honeywell? Guidant? GlaxoSmithKline? Alcoa?
AMEX? Motorola? Boeing? Johnson and Johnson? Target Corp? Best Buy corp? 3M?</p>
<p>Are these bad companies, or just in your personal opinion, not as good goldman sachs or citi. These are great companies, they are some of the top in what they do and they offer their hires wonderful opps if they decide to take what they have, utilize it and play the game so they can move within the company. It is your own opinion, not fact, but if you believe so, please prove that they are in your words "superior"</p>
<p>Harvard=Yale=Princeton=Wharton. Pretty much. The difference is so minute that it's irrelevant.</p>
<p>And major what you want, love it, and own it. Remember some of the most visionary (and wealthiest) businessmen in the world (Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, what not) don't even have a college degree, and in the case of Steve Jobs, he only went to Reed for semester.</p>
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Is Intel a bad company? Microsoft? Honeywell? Guidant? GlaxoSmithKline? Alcoa?AMEX? Motorola? Boeing? Johnson and Johnson? Target Corp? Best Buy corp? 3M?
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I never said that the recruitment at ASU is bad, just that Georgetown's is much better. But that's subjective isn't it? Here, take a look at G-town's top recruiting companies and compare it with ASU's:
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/georgetown3.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/georgetown3.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/asu3.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/asu3.htm</a></p>