<p>"Really how hard can a class on options/futures/globex or whatever, how hard can they really be."</p>
<p>About as hard as a course can be.
In industry we have PhDs in physical sciences working on valuation issues involving these instruments.</p>
<p>Stuff like finanical engineering is no piece of cake. The actuarial exams are also pretty difficult. But at the undergrad levels, finance courses not that hard and not very mathematically involved, otherwise, a lot of majors would be overwhelmed. In fact, there seems to be lack of finance/business majors with great quantitative/math skills that the industry has to recruit physics/engineering majors to do all the quants stuff. I know a physics PhD couldn't find any physics related job but take on a job in the Wall Street despite very limited exposure to finance.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if NYU or Michigan lets you major in econ and minor in finance? Or double major in econ and finance? Just wondering, because these schools have separate schools for business and Liberal Arts.</p>
<p>i am talking about undergraduate courses here moneydad. You cant tell me that these classes are overly hard. The basic concepts can easily be learned, and for undergrad finance, pretty much everything is the basics. There is a lot of stuff to learn, but it is easy to learn and understand</p>
<p>Yeah, right.</p>
<p>BBall, I don't think that's a bad move...at least, not for the same reasons you do. I picked Michigan over Chicago and Northwestern know that I was going to major in Economics and I'd do it again if I had the chance. Your bad move was for you to chose a university based on the wrong criteria. At that level, all universities will get you the same tangible results. It is the intangibles you should have focused on to make your final decision. I chose Michigan because I knew I'd be happiest there.</p>
<p>I think undergrad business is more applied while econ is more conceptual. I would prefer business since I know I want to do business but if I wasn't so sure I'd pick econ. I think business majors are now in pretty high demand too.</p>
<p>I'm gonna bring this thread back :p.</p>
<p>I'm planning on transferring for econ or business. There are schools on my list where I'm sure I'd study econ but theres some for which i'm on the fence. These are Georgetown, NYU, and UVa.</p>
<p>Would it be better to go to say McDonough/Stern/McIntire over CAS for each? For stern though i'm pretty sure it would be best though.</p>
<p>NYU definitely choose Stern - Stern has an econ degree, doesn't it?</p>
<p>UVA is kind of a toss-up but I would definitely choose liberal arts at Georgetown over McDonough. Why not just double major in Econ and a business discipline?</p>
<p>At most schools, business degree > econ degree if they HAVE a business degree. </p>
<p>Example: Stern > nyu econ
Tepper > cmu econ
Ross > michigan econ</p>
<p>I agree that if a school has an undergraduate Business programs, generaly speaking, the B School is more reputation and better than the Econ program at that same university...but you probably chose three of the five schools that I would say at the exception to the rule. The other two being Penn and MIT. Those two, along with Michigan, NYU and CMU have Business schools that are roughly equal to their Econ programs in terms of quality and reputation. Of course, if you are talking about job placement offices, Business schools will always have better career offices than Econ departments. But if we are talking about quality and reputation, those five schools have undergraduate Business programs that match their Econ departments.</p>
<p>^ But can't econ students leach off of the firms who go to the business school? For example I was looking at wharton and for the presentations by firms they would be open for everyone.</p>
<p>"Why not just double major in Econ and a business discipline?"</p>
<p>is that even allowed? I heard that if there isn't a specific dual program you can't major between colleges.</p>
<p>"Those two, along with Michigan, NYU and CMU have Business schools that are roughly equal to their Econ programs in terms of quality and reputation."</p>
<p>Did you mistype this because I can assure you these schools have business schools that are BETTER than their econ programs in terms of quality and reputation. Stern is a lot more selective and prestigious than NYU econ and the same goes for Upenn (Wharton students often say they go to Wharton instead of saying Upenn). A look at CMU shows that the Tepper school has a 20% acceptance rate and much higher stats and avg salary while Econ (in HSS) has almost double that acceptance rate and lower stats.
Umich Ross (until just last year) would not even accept freshman apps, you had to apply to Umich as a whole and then transfer later. </p>
<p>A double in Econ/Business is allowed at CMU. I do not think it is allowed at Ross or Stern. It may be allowed at Upenn but I do not think you get the degree, you are just allowed to take Wharton classes as a CAS student. </p>
<p>And no you cannot just "leach" off firms. For example, I doubt a NYU econ student can steal attractive jobs from Stern students. Theoretically, if no Stern grads apply for attractive jobs, then I guess the job would go to you, but if any Stern or Wharton grads go for it, I think they'll get the job instead.</p>
<p>That doesn't mean you won't get a good job, it'll just USUALLY be of lesser quality than those of Stern/Wharton/Tepper/Ross.</p>
<p>Even if the Econ department has a lot of reputation among academics, the buisness department of those five schools are more reputable to recruiters. Reputation among academics is not the same as reputation among recruiters. However, the difference is not as great as you might think.</p>
<p>An Econ (CAS) and Wharton dual degree is allowed at Penn. It's common because people who transfer from CAS into Wharton often started with Econ in CAS, and after transferring, they continue their CAS degree as a second degree rather than dropping it.</p>
<p>Great discussion.</p>
<p>What about USC Leventhal School of Accounting/Marshall School of Business vs. RICE Econ?</p>
<p>Rice would be better in this case because the two are different universities (Rice being a top 25 and USC is not).</p>
<p>and for UVa what college is it easier to get into :P? CAS or McIntire because I just can't figure out another way to discriminate among them and decide where to apply because I'd be ok with either degree.</p>
<p>Hi, another potential transfer here. What do you think of trading Duke econ for UVA (McIntire or CAS), NYU Stern, or Wharton? I should add that my ultimate goal is admission into a PhD program in strategy.</p>
<p>bump i'd also like to know.</p>
<p>Wharton may be worth it, if you think it suits you better. But I would not give up Duke Econ for Stern if your ultimate goal is academe. I'd say UVA and Duke are about equal, so why leave the devil you know for the cavalier you don't! hehe</p>