Plus, word is instructors are lenient about absences on powder days. 
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NC State gives very little merit out of state unless they get Park or another named scholarship.
I like to say āstudent tickets are included with student feesā as nothing is free!
Saw Montana State menās basketball play the other night. They had 3 players from England, one from Spain, one from Canada, 2 from Alaskaā¦and ONE from Montana! Quite the international school, I guess.
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Thanks! I have heard Michigan is incredibly hard to get into from OOS!
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I think youāre right! LOL!
Youāre right about student fees and nothing being free. Although for a Californian getting into a Montana school with the WUE is cheaper than many in-state schools so itās kind of a deal for us if it works out. So it will feel free to me! LOL!
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Thanks for all the info! My SIL lives in Bozeman and has talking about that influx! My son is a Junior so we still have a bit more time. Best of luck!
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Both of my kids went to schools with sporting events included in the student fees. It really does encourage everyone to go to sporting events they otherwise wouldnāt attend (basketball, womenās sports, soccer), even if for half the game. One daughter went to games because it was the only place to get Chik-fil-A (served at the stadium on game day). She learned to love football. She already loved Chik-fil-A,
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My S chose Quinnipiac because they cap the engineering classes at 24. He started with civil but is now mech. They have 100% placement. Great internship opps. Insane hockey team, beautiful campus. Lots of students interested in sports. Average snow. Max merit is about $28k.
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Thank you! How are the labs/hands-on experiences?
Yes! My daughter goes to Rice and they get into all games for free. Because of the smaller size and the way their residential colleges are set up she knows quite a few athletes in various sports so itās fun to go support them. She doesnāt go to a lot of football games but does got to menās and womenās basketball, volleyball and soccer quite a bit. And she has quite a few friends who run so sheās looking forward to a track meet or 2 this year. Getting in for free is a great perk because she definitely goes to more events than she would if she had to pay.
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For future reference, can you walk me through the timing of the apps, acceptances, decisions, housing, etc? I know seniors that havenāt applied to colleges yet, and at MT people are already signing up for their dorms? Is that typical?Thx!
Well, heās a sophomore and last year classes were all online. This year is in person but heās taking bio physics Calc 3 and a humanities so itās hard to say. They have some nice facilities, but probably not as many as a bigger school with a long-established program.
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Itās not typical to do a housing app this early. Some schools pressure accepted students into putting a housing deposit in early stating that they could run out of space or an early deposit may secure a preferred building, etc. I went through this process with my son last year and while he was accepted early (like before Jan 1) to several schools he did not need to decide nor do a housing deposit until after May 1st. Montana State is a little unique from my experience in that the housing application is done completely separately from the acceptance process so in theory you could put a housing deposit down before committing to the school. Seems a bit unconventional. That said, they are having an influx of residents across the city of Bozeman and are seeing a larger number of upper classman staying on campus due to a housing shortage so the need to secure early is somewhat of a domino affect and possibly unique to this school at this time.
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i canāt help in any way with class sizes. like tavern girl, my engineering sonās classes were all online last year, and heās just so glad they are in person this year, and hasnāt said a peep about the sizes.
in thinking about schools with engineering and sports (and midwest cuz thatās what we know), i think iād suggest Iowa State, KU, or look at smaller Tulsa University.
i get the sports things. My older kids all went to big state schools and loved going to fball, basketball, vball and baseball games. In fact, one of my kids got out her old HS sax, practiced and tried out for the pep band as a sophomore so she could get into games! Thereās something about that frenzy that they loved. Sheās in grad school now at RISD and really misses that aspect of school sports and spirit.
(and adding - although my s20 didnt end up there, he had similar stats to your son, and we were very pleased at the merit from Tulsa . . . and one more thing: my oldest at UNL (actuary) loved loved loved Innovation campus - a free maker space for students. he made all sorts of things there and became a specialist at tables with beer cap tops with resin. he loved that stuff! and engineering at UNL - new building and labs. itās amazing!)
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@kkelker: In general, the acceptance rates are higher for OOS vs. in-state UC applicants however, all the UCās have a enrollment threshold for OOS/International applicants and the average stats are actually higher to get an acceptance vs. in-state. Since the UCās are test blind, the ACT score of 34 will not be considered so GPA will be heavily weighted in the application review.
Some UC statistical data for 2021. Also be aware that OOS admissions are higher since the matriculation rate is low mainly due to the UC costs which are running around $67K/year for OOS students.
Admission Rates for California Applicants:
UCLA: 10.1%
UC Berkeley: 16.8%
UC Irvine: 20.1%
UC Santa Barbara: 28.0%
UC San Diego: 28.5%
UC Davis: 39.0%
UC Santa Cruz: 54.5%
UC Riverside: 64.0%
UC Merced: 99.7%
Admission Rates for Out-of-State Applicants (Domestic):
UCLA: 13.9%
UC Berkeley: 14.1%
UC Santa Barbara: 36.3%
UC Irvine: 74.0%
UC San Diego: 59.3%
UC Davis: 80.8%
UC Merced: 71.8%
UC Riverside: 85.7%
UC Santa Cruz: 82.2%
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another USD nod its certainly worth an ap.
good luck
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Your son wants to get out of Minnesota. I understand how your son feels. My second son also wants to get out of California to see other parts of the country.
He is looking at Minnesotaās small LAC.
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No engineering, but love Macalester and Carleton!
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I know these schools have already been mentioned; Bucknell, Lafayette, and Lehigh check some requirements. They have strong engineering programs and small class sizes, and even though it is a small conference, sports play a significant role on campus. For example, Lehigh and Lafayette have a football rivalry that dates back to 1884, and itās a week-long ritual leading up to the game each year.
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