<p>Do most law schools weigh your undergrad GPA as equally as the LSAT or is every law school different?</p>
<p>Both are very important at almost all law schools. At many law schools a higher than middle 50% range LSAT can often offset a lower than middle 50% GPA but not vice versa.</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how much a good LSAT can balance a poor GPA? I'm talking 172 and 2.6 (I know.)</p>
<p>I've known people to score a 170 and get into a good law school with a 2.50 GPA. I wonder if it's the same for Tier-4 law schools?</p>
<p>Hey,
Im an 18 year old Junior. Currently, I have a 4.0 GPA.-- I was wondering if I scored in the 165 range on my LSAT, what do you think the chances are of me getting into a top ranked school such as Georgetown, Michigan etc. etc.
In addition, what % does your GPA, LSAT and other stuff have on your admittance to a school. Thanks</p>
<p>Bump (does it still work)</p>
<p>18 yr old in his third year in college??? That's admirable. Good job! If you sustain a flawless gpa and attain a 165 on the lsat, then you would want to browse at the top ten law schools such as Harvard, Columbia, NYU, etc. Hey, you would even have a shot at Yale in my opinion. You have a high chance of admission to those types of schools. Also, the percentage of your gpa and scores is paramount to your admission to a school. In terms of precedence, 1) UGPA 2) LSAT 3) Essays and Personal Statements 4) Extra. Curricular and Community Involvement 5) Recommendation Letters 6) the application itself
So good luck sir!</p>
<p>I've heard of Boalt Hall giving a lot more weight to undergrad GPA than LSAT scores--I believe it's one of the only, if not the only, top law school to do this.</p>
<p>Perhaps that's true. Here are some figures from the entering class of 2005.</p>
<p>Median Grade Point Average:
3.81</p>
<p>Median LSAT:
166</p>
<p>Both are pretty high, that's for sure!</p>
<p>which leads me back to the original topic posted... What is more impt-- LSAT OR GPA</p>
<p>I answered your question on my post. Allow me to refer it to you: "...In terms of precedence, 1) UGPA 2) LSAT"</p>
<p>ahh yes akafizzle. I apologize, i must of skipped over it (I was reading the posts while the teacher was lecturing)</p>
<p>glad i could help</p>
<p>It really, really depends on the school. Georgetown's admissions officers told me flat-out that they don't care what your story is; they want to see a high GPA. A lot of other schools place more emphasis on LSAT and evaluate GPA (somewhat) in light of where you went to school and what you studied. Penn weighs your GPA based on the average LSAT of students from your school and your class rank at that school. Cornell flat-out rejected someone I know (astronomical LSAT, low GPA) who got merit aid from a top 10 school. </p>
<p>In short, it really depends. You should, however, recognize that schools weigh factors differently when you apply - save yourself some grief.</p>
<p>"Hey, you would even have a shot at Yale in my opinion."</p>
<p>I really wonder how many times Yale has taken your opinion into account when deciding the incoming class. </p>
<p>"You have a high chance of admission to those types of schools."</p>
<p>Based on GPA only, I would say yes. However, the school's name matters and so does the LSAT. Moreover, the last two years' GPA is considered more relevant at some schools. </p>
<p>" In terms of precedence, 1) UGPA 2) LSAT 3) Essays and Personal Statements 4) Extra. Curricular and Community Involvement 5) Recommendation Letters 6) the application itself"</p>
<p>I disagree. 1)LSAT 2)UGPA 3) Personal Statement...these three being, more or less, equal. The remaining, if impressive, would just be icing on a good application --not decisive factors.</p>
<p>"So good luck sir!"</p>
<p>I agree. Good luck! :)</p>
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<p>That is irrelevant. The poster did not purport to be an advisor or spokesperson for Yale Law School.</p>
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I disagree. 1)LSAT 2)UGPA 3) Personal Statement...these three being, more or less, equal. The remaining, if impressive, would just be icing on a good application --not decisive factors.
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<p>It depends on the school.</p>
<p>"'I really wonder how many times Yale has taken your opinion into account when deciding the incoming class.' </p>
<p>'That is irrelevant. The poster did not purport to be an advisor or spokesperson for Yale Law School.'"</p>
<p>The poster told someone that in his/her opinion that individual may have a chance at Yale Law School. I really wonder what's the validity of such claim. If there isn't any validity, then I wonder what's the benefit of such claim. As far as I understand it, people come to CC for advice --not a pat in the back or a high-five. Maybe I am wrong.</p>
<p>"'I disagree. 1)LSAT 2)UGPA 3) Personal Statement...these three being, more or less, equal. The remaining, if impressive, would just be icing on a good application --not decisive factors.' </p>
<p>'It depends on the school.'"</p>
<p>--->Hence the "more or less." We can all agree that different schools have different preferences --where some like to see high LSAT scores, others like high UGPAs more. Nonetheless, LSAT scores, UGGPA, and personal statements are clearly the most important factors among all LS. The rest is, MORE OR LESS, brownie points.</p>
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The poster told someone that in his/her opinion that individual may have a chance at Yale Law School. I really wonder what's the validity of such claim. If there isn't any validity, then I wonder what's the benefit of such claim. As far as I understand it, people come to CC for advice --not a pat in the back or a high-five. Maybe I am wrong.
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<p>Posters also come here asking for 'chances'. When another responds by saying 'you have a shot' or that 'you are a shoo-in', are they not in the same position as akafizzle?</p>
<p>If a claim is not sound, give factual evidence to the contrary. Sarcasm will not get you anywhere.</p>
<p>"Posters also come here asking for 'chances'. When another responds by saying 'you have a shot' or that 'you are a shoo-in', are they not in the same position as akafizzle?"</p>
<p>I guess you are right. Self-delusion and collective-delusion are ok. After all, it's a free country.</p>
<p>"If a claim is not sound, give factual evidence to the contrary. Sarcasm will not get you anywhere."</p>
<p>I think I proved my point regarding the validity of such a claim. You, however, have done nothing more than reply directly to my last few posts with no relevant information that will benefit the discussions. But, hey, it's a free country.</p>
<p>As I said in a previous post, I don't have time to waste arguing with you. If you have a passion for protecting the feelings of every 16 or 18 year old on the forum, go ahead. That's really nice. But my posts are not sarcastic; I am not intending to offend anyone. I told you before, if my posts offend you, look elsewhere. Usually, I am not even addressing you.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>~WF</p>
<p>Ps. If something really offended you, send me a PM and we can talk it over.</p>
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<p>Actually, a lot of the assessments on this forum are quite accurate. Saying 'you have a shot at Yale' is different from saying 'you are going to be admitted'. As an ostensibly well-read person on law school admissions data, did you not scrutinize the chart on Yale's website? A cursory glance would have yielded the same conclusion as akafizzle's. </p>
<p>This, however, assumes you can read. I am not sure as to the verity of that assumption.</p>
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I think I proved my point regarding the validity of such a claim.
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<p>If you call that a proof, then you are in need of disabuse.</p>
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You, however, have done nothing more than reply directly to my last few posts with no relevant information that will benefit the discussions.
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<p>No. I corrected your statements, which were misleading. Your correcting of 'effect' made no contribution, either, especially since the poster's use of 'affect' was correct, and you merely exposed yourself as a wiseacre.</p>
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<p>I cannot be offended by intellectual inferiors. </p>
<p>I truly hope the school to which you transfer teaches you a good lesson in logic. While I may need a course on maturity, you are in desperate need of one on reasoning.</p>