Undergrad Graduating in 3 years with IB

<p>Let me preface this by saying I have searched this entire forum about graduating early but I haven't found the answer to my particular questions. </p>

<p>I am American and go to McGill University in Canada. I am completing my BA degree in 3 years because I received 1 year credit for my IB Diploma. Most people on CC have said graduating early is frowned upon. </p>

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<li><p>Now is this only through AP credits, only American Unis that this is seen as bad or internationally as well? </p></li>
<li><p>Does this have something to do with rushing in college? At McGill 3 years is the norm. Here students graduate HS in 11 years, go to something called CEGEP (2-year mini college) and then go to uni for 3 years. My IB Diploma is seen as equivalent to CEGEP. So would the IB Diploma credit be different from AP Credit?</p></li>
<li><p>In general, I don't understand why a 3-year diploma is not good. I would think the type of classes someone is graduating with would matter more than the quantity. For example, when I started McGill, my classes were on par with "sophomore level" In my second year at uni I am taking "junior level" classes and 1-2 "senior classes" (400-level). In my last year I'll probably be able to take 1-2 masters courses for credit. I would think that would be seen as better than someone doing a 4-year diploma and not taking harder courses. </p></li>
<li><p>Will my IB Diploma scores count at all toward law admissions? I don't think they would be but if they technically count as my "freshman year"? </p></li>
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<p>Some more info if it matters: I'm taking the LSAT in October or December and I'm currently scoring between 165-170 on practice exams. My GPA is appx 3.5 and McGill doesn't inflate grades, if anything (at least around here) it's known for deflating grades. </p>

<p>I really appreciate any responses/help, especially for anyone who has gone to law school after a 3-year with IB. :)</p>

<p>bump…anyone? any idea whatsoever?</p>

<p>It will be more of a problem for you if you want to go directly to law school. In that case, you’d apply during the fall of your third year and law schools will be looking at 4 semesters of grades. That can hurt. Take at least a year off and submit 3 years / 6 semesters of grades and it will be less of an issue. </p>

<p>As for grade inflation…I suspect that lots of McGill students take the LSAT, as some Canadian law schools also require it. Find a student who has taken it. His/hers results will show the median LSAT at McGill. To the extent law schools take grade inflation/deflation into account, they do it by comparing the median LSAT of the applicants from a particular school with the median gpa.</p>

<p>I found old data by doing a google search. Yes, it’s out of date. In 2006, the median LSAT score for McGill was 158. If the median gpa of LAW SCHOOL APPLICANTS from McGill in 2006, not the median gpa of all students, was 2.9 or lower, McGill isn’t grade deflated. If it’s above that, it is.</p>

<p>You should be able to get current data from students who took the June LSAT.</p>

<p>In any event…submitting only two years worth of grades when applying can hurt. Take some time off and submit 3 years of grades and it will be less of a factor.</p>

<p>^ thanks for the reply :)</p>

<p>I’m curious though, why does everyone say that? Why does submitting 2 years worth of grades hurt? I’m not disagreeing with you - but I’m not sure I understand why.</p>

<p>The majority of the pool will either be submitting minimally 3 years of grades (if they are applying senior year), or 4 years of grades if they have taken a year of 2 off to work, do TFA, Americorps, etc. before starting law school. If you are applying straight out of undergrad, I agree with Jonri that it will put you at a disadvantage because most of the pool will have more to show.</p>

<p>The LSAC does not address IB courses/Credit. I have no idea how it shows up on your LSAC gpa, whether they are unconverted credits, etc. Your best bet would be to call them and ask them how they look at and IB credits are placed/discussed on your LSAC transcript.</p>

<p>[LSAC</a> - LSAC Policies - Policies Related to Transcript Summarization](<a href=“http://www.lsac.org/policies/transcript-summarization.asp#unconverted]LSAC”>http://www.lsac.org/policies/transcript-summarization.asp#unconverted)</p>