<p>Here's a question I've never seen posed: What if, as another criterion is for how colleges are ranked, the number of undergraduate students that graduated from that University to get advanced degrees is considered. </p>
<p>Beside that, I think it would be very interesting what undergraduate colleges produce the most PhDs, JDs, MDs and so on. I'm sure places like HYP are on top, but I think the stats for other schools would be facsinating. Anyone have them?</p>
<p>The top schools for producing PhDs is Caltech and Harvey Mudd College. As which order, I've seen Harvey Mudd with a % as high as 40 and as low as 24, so I am not really sure where it lies. On wikipedia though it says 40%, which would place it 1st.</p>
<p>REED is a very very very very good choice!!!!</p>
<p>It's not a reliable indicator. A much better method would be to examine <em>where</em> the students were admitted rather than how many. This would have to be on a department by department basis for accurate comparison. </p>
<p>A school that doesn't have many pre-graduate students would be penalized in your ranking, even if all of the pre-graduate students got into superb graduate programs.</p>
<p>
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The top schools for producing PhDs is Caltech and Harvey Mudd College.
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The top schools for per capita PhD production are Caltech, Swat, MIT, Mudd, Reed, Carleton, Harvard, Oberlin, Yale, and Bryn Mawr, in that order.</p>
<p>Percentage of graduates receiving a doctorate degree </p>
<p>PhDs and Doctoral Degrees:
ten years (1994 to 2003) from NSF database </p>
<p>Number of Undergraduates:
ten years (1989 to 1998) from IPEDS database</p>
<p>Note 1: Does not include colleges with less than 1000 graduates over the ten year period<br>
Note 2: Includes all NSF doctoral degrees inc. PhD, Divinity, etc., but not M.D. or Law. </p>
<p>
1 35.8% California Institute of Technology
2 24.7% Harvey Mudd College
3 21.1% Swarthmore College
4 19.9% Reed College
5 18.3% Massachusetts Institute of Technology
6 16.8% Carleton College
7 15.8% Bryn Mawr College
8 15.7% Oberlin College
9 15.3% University of Chicago
10 14.5% Yale University
11 14.3% Princeton University
12 14.3% Harvard University
13 14.1% Grinnell College
14 13.8% Haverford College
15 13.8% Pomona College
16 13.1% Rice University
17 12.7% Williams College
18 12.4% Amherst College
19 11.4% Stanford University
20 11.3% Kalamazoo College
21 11.0% Wesleyan University
22 10.6% St John's College (both campus)
23 10.6% Brown University
24 10.4% Wellesley College
25 10.0% Earlham College
26 9.6% Beloit College
27 9.5% Lawrence University
28 9.3% Macalester College
29 9.0% Cornell University, All Campuses
30 9.0% Bowdoin College
31 8.9% Mount Holyoke College
32 8.9% Smith College
33 8.8% Vassar College
34 8.7% Case Western Reserve University
35 8.7% Johns Hopkins University
36 8.7% St Olaf College
37 8.7% Hendrix College
38 8.6% Hampshire College
39 8.5% Trinity University
40 8.5% Knox College
41 8.5% Duke University
42 8.4% Occidental College
43 8.3% University of Rochester
44 8.3% College of Wooster
45 8.3% Barnard College
46 8.2% Bennington College
47 8.1% Columbia University in the City of New York
48 8.0% Whitman College
49 7.9% University of California-Berkeley
50 7.9% College of William and Mary
51 7.8% Carnegie Mellon University
52 7.8% New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
53 7.7% Brandeis University
54 7.6% Dartmouth College
55 7.5% Wabash College
56 7.5% Bates College
57 7.5% Davidson College
58 7.2% Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
59 7.2% Franklin and Marshall College
60 7.1% Fisk University
61 7.1% Wheaton College (Wheaton, IL)
62 6.8% University of California-San Francisco
63 6.8% Allegheny College
64 6.6% Furman University
65 6.5% University of Pennsylvania
66 6.5% Washington University
67 6.5% Bard College
68 6.4% Northwestern Univ
69 6.4% Rhodes College
70 6.3% Agnes Scott College
71 6.3% Spelman College
72 6.2% Antioch University, All Campuses
73 6.2% Kenyon College
74 6.2% University of Dallas
75 6.1% Ripon College
76 6.1% Colorado College
77 6.1% Bethel College (North Newton, KS)
78 6.0% Hamilton College
79 6.0% Goshen College
80 6.0% Middlebury College
81 6.0% Erskine College
82 5.9% University of the South
83 5.8% University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
84 5.8% Drew University
85 5.8% Wake Forest University
86 5.8% Tougaloo College
87 5.8% Goucher College
88 5.7% Chatham College
89 5.7% Cooper Union
90 5.7% Alfred University, Main Campus
91 5.7% Tufts University
92 5.6% University of California-Santa Cruz
93 5.6% Colgate University
94 5.5% Colby College
95 5.4% Bucknell University
96 5.4% Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
97 5.4% Concordia Teachers College
98 5.4% University of Virginia, Main Campus
99 5.3% Sarah Lawrence College
100 5.3% Southwestern University
</p>
<p>"A school that doesn't have many pre-graduate students would be penalized in your ranking, even if all of the pre-graduate students got into superb graduate programs.</p>
<p>Quote:
The top schools for producing PhDs is Caltech and Harvey Mudd College.
The top schools for per capita PhD production are Caltech, Swat, MIT, Mudd, Reed, Carleton, Harvard, Oberlin, Yale, and Bryn Mawr, in that order."</p>
<p>By that logic, Mudd should move up in the rankings, no? </p>
<p>Interesteddad has posted the % of students that go on to get PhD from undergrad programs. THAT IS PER CAPITA!</p>
<p>
Are you referring to the differences between interesteddad's post and mine? I used one of his posts as a source. The list he just posted is a bit different from his other one, but they're in roughly the same order.</p>
<p>REED is also the easiest to get into.. yet very difficult course load..</p>