Undergraduate: Berkeley Haas vs. USC Marshall

<p>Unless you have a specific area of business you want to study then the correct answer is yoskis’. If you want accounting then Leventhal at USC is better. If you want a Business and Entertainment Industry combination, then USC wins. Haas probably wins the IB wars though I’d suspect the vast majority of those jobs go to MBAs at either school. After that the differences will be trivial.</p>

<p>My son is at USC, he has had an internship since halfway through first semester freshman year (he’s now a sophomore). Some of his friends are surprised about ‘how he gets these cool internships’; the truth is he goes after them. For all the help USC (or any school) offers in connecting you with opportunities it’s still up to you to make things happen. That will be true your entire life BTW.</p>

<p>Osakadad, your ideas in your post #21 are so outdated. USC has hosted Obama on campus twice now, and a lot of USC students support him ardently. I note this because he’s spent a lot of time at UCLA alumni’s homes in Holmby Hills, and UCLA alumni are some of his greatest supporters. Where’s the love for UCLA, Prez Obama? All UCLA has gotten up to now has been Mrs. Obama, who is fine, but doesn’t have quite the draw. </p>

<p>And of course, we had to expect your requisite propping of CPSLO bus programs. CPSLO’s bus couldn’t hold a candle to USC’s or especially Cal’s.</p>

<p>Berkeley has the better-rated business program and probably has better job placement as well; I’m fairly certain that Haas actually posts its class outcomes data on the web (I seem to remember looking at it before). Also, if you are a CA resident, Haas is the better bargain. Personally, I think USC is way overrated.</p>

<p>Also, you don’t have to major in business administration to get a job in banking or finance. In fact, I think that some firms would prefer economics majors. They learn to write and think better than business majors, and they have stronger quantitative skills because of their coursework requirements.</p>

<p>*Osakadad, your ideas in your post #21 are so outdated. USC has hosted Obama on campus twice now, and a lot of USC students support him ardently. I note this because he’s spent a lot of time at UCLA alumni’s homes in Holmby Hills, and UCLA alumni are some of his greatest supporters. Where’s the love for UCLA, Prez Obama? All UCLA has gotten up to now has been Mrs. Obama, who is fine, but doesn’t have quite the draw. *</p>

<p>That does not invalidate anything that Osakadad said or show that it’s “outdated.” Columbia has hosted Ahmadinejad, but I would say the vast majority of Columbia students do NOT agree with him. And “a lot” doesn’t mean most or even really a substantial proportion. Osakadad was only speaking from personal experience, and specifically about the <em>business</em> school. I think that business majors tend to be more conservative on average anyway, especially if they are at a designated business school itself.</p>

<p>Has this student been admitted to these two schools? </p>

<p>Rankings can be controversial and subjective. However, here are the U.S. News rankings for programs within Marshall and Haas. In some programs Marshall is ranked higher than Haas.</p>

<p>Accounting
H-Not ranked in top ten
M- Fifth</p>

<p>Entrepreneurship
H-Seventh
M-Fourth</p>

<p>Finance
H-Third
M-Not ranked in top ten</p>

<p>International Business
H-Sixth
M-Fourth</p>

<p>Management
H-Third
M-Tenth</p>

<p>Management Information
H-Tenth
M-Not ranked in top ten</p>

<p>Marketing
H-Third
M-Tenth</p>

<p>Real Estate
H-Third
M-Fourth</p>

<p>SC does offer some special programs that are interdisciplinary:</p>

<p>Business and Cinematic Arts
Business and International Relations
Business and Computer Science ( Degree is from Viterbi)</p>

<p>Business is global. Marhall has an international exchange program, summer internship programs in London, Madrid, Dublin, Sydney and Jakarta as well as shorter programs in the LINC and ExCel options. These are in addition to SC’s regular study abroad programs.</p>

<p>The CAP (Career Advantage Program) links upperclassmen with alumni mentors.</p>

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<p>I think USC’s probably tried to become more diverse wrt political leanings in the last decade or so. I don’t doubt that there is still an extremely large politically right-leaning group on that campus.</p>

<p>I admit, though, my main motivation is typically to discount anything that osakadad has to say. Virtually all his posts have anti-UCLA tones to them, which is fine, certainly that’s his opinion. For instance, per his recent post, UCSD might have a majority higher ranking E programs … but my counter would be that UCLA places better into industry, including some of the E companies in SD, like Qualcomm, per an intern at that company as posted on the UCLA board. UCLA’s E programs admit a higher ranking student in gpa/SAT-ACT than SD’s. </p>

<p>One thing I wanted to add, was, perhaps UCLA was considered, but the advance scout team for Obama might have thought that UCLA was a bad fit because of its more hilly and open nature that might have been a more substantial risk to hosting him on campus. USC is more flatlands and has more density of building structures and has less open space.</p>

<p>Here is Berkeley’s career survey for business majors:
<a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Other majors at Berkeley:
<a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Other schools:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/internships-careers-employment/1121619-university-graduate-career-surveys-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/internships-careers-employment/1121619-university-graduate-career-surveys-4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Lest I forget…</p>

<p>But I do like your sense of humor, juillet. ;)</p>

<p>I honestly don’t see the comparison between Ahmadinejad and Obama but we’re cool. I’m not even saying that I’m a supporter of Obama, a lot of UCLA alums are, but I just like the idea Mr. POTUS speaking on campus, whatever his/her political affiliation. He spoke at ASU, no less! (Though I can see what his point was in choosing that campus, according to his speech there.)</p>