Undergraduate BME and Mathematics Ranks for my Shortlist Schools

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@Alexandre

Because it is my job too, and I am better at it than they are.

Then why don’t we see the “2009 Alexandre Ranking of Global Universities” in our local Barnes & Noble bookstores? They aren’t perfect, but the researchers at USNWR have established themselves as the authorities of higher education, especially at the undergraduate level. No one’s going to stop listening to them and start listening to you.</p>

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@Alexandre

Not really, they are ignorant, irresponsible and incompetent, which explains why their ranking is completely unacceptable to the majority of the academic community.

Oh really? Do you have any proof of this? Their ranking generally falls in line what most educated posters including yourself believe to be the order of the top universities in the country. They are definitely the best ranking group out there besides the Huazhong rankins, which admittedly are unknown and not respected.</p>

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@Alexandre

Nobody separates graduate from undergraduate “prestige”. A university either is prestigious or it isn’t.

This is false based on my experiences. Going to Michigan Law School or a Berkeley Engineering Masters Program is a totally different animal than going to either of these schools for undergrad. The naive and uneducated might not notice, but educated individuals such as myself know the difference and will be a lot more impressed by the Michigan Law school candidate than the regular LSA student.</p>

<p>We all know that Michigan has a 50% acceptance rate for undergrad and a sub 10% acceptance rate AMONG the nation’s top scholars for Law, Med and Biz school. We aren’t fools here Alexandre.</p>

<p>If you tell me you went to Cal or UMich, I always make sure to clarify what division to gain context of the individual. I imagine every educated person does the same.</p>

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@Alexandre

You are entitled to your opinion ring<em>of</em>fire. I guess I could have asked my fellow high school classmates and recent high school graduates for their opinions, but I was more interested in the opinions of professors at PhD programs I may (and did) one day apply to or CEOs of IBanks I was planning on working for (and did) after college. To each his own I suppose.

Well, I knew all my schools provided excellent postgraduate and professional opportunities, so I really wanted to get the input for current or recently graduated students (which I did) to ensure that I got a top-notch, personalized education with plenty of opportunities to do research, study abroad and do community service so I can be well positioned for the future (which I am, I work at one of the MBB consulting giants).</p>

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@Alexandre

First of all, those rankings are all pathetic.

The only international rankings I trust are the Huazhong and QS ones. They rank Duke above these so-called “peer” schools. The Jio Tong ranking is a total sham and I am sure you feel the same way.</p>

<p>According to Huazhong,
[Top</a> 100 among American Universities](<a href=“http://www.hust.edu.cn/english/link/oversea/abroad/top100American.htm]Top”>http://www.hust.edu.cn/english/link/oversea/abroad/top100American.htm)
Duke: #6
Northwestern: #12
Cornell: #14
Johns Hopkins University: #15
Brown: #17
Cal: #21
Michigan: #25</p>

<p>This is the BEST college ranking I have ever seen and the only reason I heard about is because a family friend of a classmate works at the university and showed me the ranking which he mentions was compiled specifically for undergrad.</p>