<p>So I looked at BusinessWeek Online's rankings of what was called the "best undergrad business programs" and it ranked Wharton, Sloan, Stern, etc. etc. I was confused because they called it an "undergrad" program; how is getting an MBA for example, considered an "undergraduate" degree ? Another thing is that a friend's brother who is starting USC this fall got into the Marshall B School, but he's only going to be a freshman. So my question is, don't you get a BA/BS degree and THEN apply to an business school to get an MBA (or any business degree from a B school) ? Or can you just apply to Wharton B school, for example, as a freshman applicant ? How exactly do you get into business school as a freshman ? (Sorry if I sound totally un-knowledgeable about this, lol)</p>
<p>Most business schools have undergraduate divisions, where if you are majoring in say, management or finance, you have classes. For example, Wharton at UPenn has both an undergraduate and a graduate division.</p>
<p>The Undergrad ranking isn't referring to the MBA programs - its talking about the undergraduate programs at those schools which result in a bachelors degree (a B.B.A or B.S. in Econ or something like that)</p>
<p>More info from UPenn</a> (Wharton), Sloan</a> (MIT), Stern</a> (NYU) or McCombs</a> (Texas)</p>
<p>hmm, thanks guys. Ok, now for the BIG question, when people say "omg, omg, Wharton is sooo hard to get into!" are they talking about its undergrad program, graduate program or BOTH ?</p>
<p>i believe it's both.</p>
<p>also, what's more competitive: admission into Wharton undergrad B program or graduate B program ?</p>
<p>gooduniforme: competition amongst degree programs. I'd say both are competitive. But if asked the question, would it be harder to be admitted to undergrad or graduate top tier business scholls. I'd say it depends. Undergrad admission usually doesn't involve much work experience. For instance, people with stellar grades, great applications, ecs, etc will have a good chance of getting into wharton's undergrad b school. As far as graduate school at a top tier MBA program, schools have increased the requirements, many good MBA programs will now require work experience or some sort internships. Its no longer the people who have good ecs that into great MBA programs but rather those that are interning at great companies or pulling off a 30hour a week job that is concentrated in the field they wish to enter. Graduate school admission is pretty much boiled down to performance. Adcoms for graduate b school want to see students that work hard for good grades and work hard to achieve success in the business world. </p>
<p>Generally more people will apply to the undergraduate program. So if asked if it is harder by numbers, then yes is the answer. Less people apply to graduate school..... then yes it is easier.</p>
<p>thanks ! 10 chars</p>
<p>Don't forget to mention University of Michigan's Ross School of Business and UC's Haas School of Business, both top 3 institutions.</p>
<p>thanks jhum111. So, I visited the Wharton Undergrad Program website and it states something like "Wharton undergrad has no seperate admissions; admissions is thru the U of Penn". 1) On the UPenn app, do you check the box for wharton, as the "school" you want to go to ? 2) If there is indeed a seperate box for wharton, aren't they going to be looking for specific things they wouldn't look for in a regular application ? ie. leadership qualities, math scores, etc.</p>
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<li>Yes</li>
<li>Sort of, but there already are spots for those sorts of things on the regular UPenn App (ECs that show leadership, scores, etc.)</li>
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<p>o yikes, so I guess if you don't look too hot to get into wharton, just apply to the Arts/Sciences College and try to transfer ? I bet it's tough to transfer to wharton once your in, though.</p>
<p>Yes, you check a box for the school you apply too. They will be looking for leadership, scores, essays, etc. in all applicants, so there is really no need to have a separate application for Wharton.</p>
<p>Yes it is very tough to transfer into Wharton internally. If you want to get into Wharton, apply to it. It is very lame to look for a back door way in. Plus, it's not like admissions to the College is a cakewalk.</p>