Undergraduate Business Schools Transfering Chances?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>My ideal schools to go to are Wharton, Stern, Tepper, Olin, and Haas, since they are among the top UNDERGRADUATE business programs</p>

<p>But I am aware that they are all very competitive and a lot harder to get into than their general schools, and that is what makes me afraid.</p>

<p>I was just wondering, if I wasn't cut out for any of those ^^^^ TOP undergraduate business programs after my senior year in highschool, would be better to...</p>

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<li>Apply to a less prestigious undergraduate business school, and then transfer to one of those better ones after Freshman Year in college.</li>
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<p>ORRRRRRRRRR</p>

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<li>Apply to a college with NO undergraduate business program, but a more prestigious school itself, and THEN transfer to one of the schools listed above ^^^^^^ ?</li>
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<p>Like which option would I have better chances with?</p>

<p>Like... lets say I apply ED to UPenn (Wharton) and get rejected. Then I would have to apply to a bunch of schools regular decision. After getting accepted, I would have to make a choice of which school to attend. But there would be a few conflicts.</p>

<p>A good example of this conflict would be choosing between lets say... Northwestern VS University of Michigan (Ross School of Business). Northwestern is an excellent school in general and is respected for its name and their smart students; however, it doesn't have an undergraduate business school.</p>

<p>On the OTHER hand, University of Michigan is a so-so school that isn't really as prestigious in its name, but it has a decent business school. So would I have a better chance transferring to Wharton from a place like Northwestern, or from a place like The Ross School of Business at University of Michigan? (Assuming I get the SAME grades and take similar courses as those schools)</p>

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<p>LOL. Do you live in Columbus Ohio?</p>

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<p>Other info</p>

<p>Male, NY, Rly High Income, Top 100 Public School
Gpa 3.8
Sat 2290
Great Extra Curriculars
Doubt that info would help that much, but it shows im at least sort of a decent candidate for these schools I guess…</p>

<p>@vinceh I don’t really get what you mean by asking if I live in Columbus Ohio… I mean clearly not ^^, but if you disagree with my statement about Michigan being a so-so school, please DO tell… I mean its kind of ranked like #30 and has a 37% admissions rate, (for REGULAR decision) so its kindddd of a so-so school… not a lot of high requirements to get in there…</p>

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<p>Good luck trying to transfer into ANY of those undergrad business schools. It’s really difficult to get in. Haha really Michigan is a “so so school”? If that’s what you think of Michigan, then you have been misled.</p>

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<p>Do your research. Michigan-Ross undergrad is as good or better than all the schools you list except maybe]/u] Wharton. Put another way, your 3.8/2290 is about average for a Ross pre-admit. Of course you’ll have to produce at least 3.5 as a freshman to keep that designation.</p>

<p>To answer your other question, to the best of my knowledge those schools have even lower transfer acceptance rates than the admit rates as freshman.</p>

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<p>Okay well Ross is #5 for finance on US news, and #8 on BusinessWeek so aka, its good, but MICHIGAN ITSELF, is ranked 29th… I know ross is good, im saying michigans name isn’t rly that appealing</p>

<p>But to rephrase, lets say I don’t transfer, and I had to choose between like the Kelley School of Business at Indiana vs like Economics Major at Northwestern, which would more likely get me a job in Wall Street?</p>

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<p>I think its more of a question of like</p>

<p>Prestige vs Specialty </p>

<p>People say like “oh if you go to a smart school, people will hire you just because they know you are probably smart and work hard, you don’t have to go to a specialized field for all of college?” but im not sure how true that statement is. THAT is like the main question, this isn’t a post that is belittling Michigan or anything lol</p>

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<p>Getting a degree at a prestigious university doesn’t guarantee a successful high salary career. In terms of business colleges, there are plenty of mid-range universities, much “lesser” than Michigan, with fantastic curriculums and networking opportunities to rival those at the “better” ones.</p>

<p>Also, please don’t use US News and their corrupt ranking methods as your sole basis for which universities are better than others. These rankings also don’t always translate to the undergraduate business programs, so they are even more irrelevant.</p>

<p>Consider what you truly want to achieve from your education and work from there.</p>

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<p>@dkil1031 so you are saying that it would be a wiser move to stick to a less prestigious school that HAS a business program, rather than a more prestigious ones? </p>

<p>Because my older brother has to deal with a similar problem. He applied to Wharton ED and got rejected, but he got into Williams, Uchicago, and NYU Stern. While he wanted to pursue a major and future in finance, he decided to go to Wiliams because he thought he would end up farther since the name sounded better. Im not sure if I agree with his decision but im just conflicted.</p>

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<p>Also, just wondering, what is wrong with the US News ranking system? </p>

<p>And if I shouldn’t use that one, which one should I use to determine which colleges are better?</p>

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<p>I don’t know what your career goals are in finance, but chances are you will consider obtaining your MBA (Masters Degree) after your 4-year Bachelors. Your choice of undergraduate (Bachelors) school wouldn’t be nearly as imperative as your grad school choice. This is where the prestige factor truly matters (Although not entirely; there are some excellent MBA programs that extend well beyond the Ivy League).</p>

<p>In terms of your undergraduate education, I would recommend choosing the university that appeals to YOU. Rankings don’t necessarily determine whether you will enjoy a certain university’s education over the other. Also, you don’t necessarily need to major in business or finance to get into an MBA program, you could major in anything really, with Economics as another fine option.</p>

<p>To sum up my point: I don’t think the idea of transferring as an undergraduate into a top-notch university’s business college will necessarily propel you to the top of the resume stack, but it is a good idea to consider the MBA route. If you can’t get into the undergraduate programs you desire, you can choose from a bevy of great 4-year programs (including Michigan :wink: ) and work on getting top grades and excellent references and a little work experience in addition to your GMAT prep (the SAT of business schools) to create a fine application for a prestigious MBA school.</p>

<p>In terms of the rankings issues, I am personally not a fan of US News as they place a lot of unfair bias in their rankings for a number of reasons including financial bribery. While I’m not a big advocate of ranking systems, I think the most beneficial ones for business schools would be on actual business-related sites, such as Forbes, BusinessWeek, Wall Street Journal, etc.</p>

<p>Hope this answered a few questions</p>

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<p>I hear these days, you can only get into the top MBA programs after completing a few years of work experience though. SO your saying its okay to go to a school without an undergraduate business program, and I can still get a job on like wall street after 4 years of college?</p>