Unemployed Graduate

<p>UPDATE #2: I got to the late round of a few interviews, but still no offer. </p>

<p>I don’t understand why companies interview over the phone, then meet you in person to ask you the same questions. It’s been about 6 and a half months since I started looking for a job and it seems like there is no end in sight.</p>

<p>I am a amazed when I go through recent post-graduate surveys of Cornell and other schools, and see graduates claiming to make $50,000-$55,000 per year right after graduating. I have looked at data tables for unemployed people and see that people with a college degree have a very low unemployment rate, but their labor force participation rate is much lower than expected. There are so many college graduates that have stopped trying. I do not know how much longer I can keep applying to jobs with 95% of many applications getting no response even though I have tailored my resume.</p>

<p>Change your personal reference? </p>

<p>Those starting salaries are boosted by high paying jobs, such as engineering. </p>

<p>I am aware of the fact that those that go into consulting and financial services make more money and thus inflate the mean. However, the mean for Human Ecology school graduates is $46,700. Those going into retail even make $51,000:</p>

<p><a href=“Career Services | Student & Campus Life | Cornell University”>Career Services | Student & Campus Life | Cornell University;

<p>I cannot rarely get a response from employers regardless of whether I am applying for a job that pays $32,000 or $55,000. And I usually apply for jobs where I have met all of the qualifications. Some jobs only prefer a bachelor’s degree, and when I call HR and let them know that I am really interested in the job, they take down my number and never contact me.</p>

<p>Random thoughts: It seems so many jobs in this economy and environment are increasingly coming through friends and family networks. And, I’m seeing skilled college grads being hired at $37K, which is difficult to live on in my neck of the woods. Most 1st-contact-to-offer-acceptance cycles seem to run for two months. A good job search can last up to two years. Freelance, volunteer, intern, etc., in the meantime, perhaps. </p>

<p>You seem to continue thinking you deserve employment based on your background, still blaming others for not calling you back and pointing at people with decent salaries who you feel are no more worthy than you. </p>

<p>However, you haven’t indicated any effort on your part to change your approach, to offer them solutions rather than another Ivy League degree. Have you sought out tiny companies or start-ups? Why are you always dealing with faceless companies possessing huge HR divisions? What about nonprofits or local government? </p>

<p>There’s more options out there but you seem to be locked into positioning yourself as a victim while not doing what’s necessary to break the cycle. Not sure how much anyone else can help you at this point…</p>

<p>I think the Cornell Post Graduate Survey for the Class of 2013 for which you posted the link also sheds some light on your experience. Although you are focusing on the median salary figures, more telling is the fact that only 25% of the 189 respondents from CHE reported that they were employed. That is about 47 students out of a total class of 331, which translates to less than 15%. So its not the case that everyone else is having an easy time finding a job except for you. Many of those that did not respond to the survey (over 40% of the class) may be in a similar situation.</p>

<p>In addition, 30% of respondents listed “Other”, which also includes looking for a job. </p>

<p>UPDATE:</p>

<p>I have been getting a lot of interviews for internships, but have yet to get hired. It’s been almost 8 months since I have been looking for job/internship/volunteer opportunity. I have been volunteering since late March. Some of these internships that I have been applying for pay well below minimum wage. You get a set stipend even though you are told you will work more than 40 hours per week. And I still couldn’t even get those internships.</p>

<p>I did not expect to be treated so disrespectfully by some employers. They reschedule interviews at the last minute. Then they show up late to the interviews. And the questions asked in person are the same questions asked during the phone interview. I have gotten disrespected the same way when applying for volunteer work. I have interviewed for a administrative assistant volunteer position at a non-profit, and after showing up for the interview, she did not even bother to email me if I had gotten the position. I emailed her, and she told me she was no longer looking for a volunteer.</p>

<p>I have looked up some of the people that have gotten the jobs that I applied for. I am applying for entry-level positions and some of the people that have gotten my job have been out of college for 2-5 years. And these jobs pay $35,000-$50,000. The job market is as bad as it’s ever been for young people if this is the salary that you are getting with a college degree and years of experience. </p>

<p>I really don’t even see myself getting an internship anytime soon. There is too much competition.</p>

<p>Keep trying on all fronts for another 18 months. It can take that long. </p>

<p>I’m sorry to hear that your job search isn’t going too well. I think in this economy you just have to cast a really wide net and remember to follow up. And you won’t know if you can get the internship or not until you apply. Have you considered social media or anything tech-y, by the way? A relative of mine also was in Communications and that’s what she’s doing now. </p>

<p>Keep on keeping on! </p>

<p>Hi Jessica Hunter. You said a few times that the questions they ask in person are the same questions they asked in the phone interview. And you sound really annoyed about it.</p>

<p>Remember this: The “questions” are just an opening for you to begin a conversation. Just because they already asked those questions does not mean you have to give an identical response. It’s not a legal deposition. Use the question as a launching-off point. Yes, answer the question, but then say what YOU want to convey. Segue from the response into YOUR messages. Know in advance what your messages are, and make sure you get them in, whether or not they are in direct response to a question.</p>

<p>And you know what? It doesn’t matter if they are “disrespectful” to you. Don’t be so focused on how courteous they are. Just erase that from your thought process. They don’t owe you anything.</p>

<p>Jessica: I work part time for a very large non-profit in California with a number of sociology graduates on my team. They work hard long hours and for low pay. We get stacks of resumes, on our fax machine on a daily basis, maybe 50 to 75 per day- minimum when we are NOT advertising for positions. So your sociology degree is in a mixed bag with psych graduates and health education grads. </p>

<p>The minute a position does open, they give it to a person who maybe didn’t get the position the last time but who the committee remembered and all liked. One thing I’ve learned, from my observation, is that they don’t hire the grads who can’t mix well with our patient populations unless the grad has been recommended by several people. They also tend to hire people who are bilingual in any language: Spanish, Tagalog, Vietnamese, Mandarin, Russian, American Sign Language, etc. because the populations are multilingual and being bilingual is a major plus.</p>

<p>Here’s what I’ve gathered from your posts here: you are angry that your Cornell education has not opened any doors and that no relatives or friends can help you to gain employment. You picked a major that is known to be low-paying with thousands of other sociology graduates looking for work. You don’t have an MSW and even the MSW’s can’t find work. </p>

<p>As for your interviews, the problem is that once you get into the interview, you seem to expect respect and people jumping through hoops for you, unaware that people interviewing you are under a lot of stress. You may not be thinking that the person interviewing you has deadlines, timelines and is stretched thin and maybe that’s why he/she is late to the interview or just had a stressful meeting, or whatever. So you have to make time in your schedule for an interview, in your line of work aren’t you supposed to be accommodating? Sociology does not pay, nor does it have the same conditions that, say, engineering has. The industry is begging for engineers. You happened to pick an industry that has a glut of graduates: sociology.</p>

<p>And please stop thinking that being a Cornell grad entitles you to a job and makes you better than everyone else on this planet. That attitude stinks and it probably comes across in your interviews and paperwork. The minute you go into an interview, you are no longer a “Cornell” person, you are an applicant who needs a job. Think about that for a minute.</p>

<p>With our agency, it doesn’t matter where you went to school. No one cares, and if you bring that arrogant attitude with you to our agency, you wont get any call backs. They are too busy trying to find the people that they really want to hire. </p>

<p>My suggestion to you when you are in an interview is to take the bull by the horns and say: “Would you like me to show you how I dealt with this problem, that was completely unfamiliar to me?” For goodness sakes, be positive and proactive and be NICE!</p>

<p>“disrespected” ? I’ve known nonprofits to be disorganized, poorly run…but typically not the type of people who are insensitive or mean-spirited. </p>

<p>Play to your strengths. What qualities, skills, abilities, and knowledge are you “famous” for among your friends, family, former schoolmates and instructors? Let us know. Perhaps you can parley those into a job. </p>

<p>FINAL UPDATE: found a job. at times it is mind-numbing. but it pays well. i am surrounded by well-connected people. and shouldn’t have trouble finding a job again.</p>

<p>@JessicaHunter‌ yay! </p>

<p>How did you ultimately find this job and land it? What was the key? What could it lead to? Congrats!</p>

<p>@JessicaHunter‌ Congratulations!!</p>