Unfair Admission? Summer B 2012

<p>Hard to believe.</p>

<p>and @ufbound</p>

<p>Being an international student should make it tougher to get in, right?</p>

<p>It’s not unfair. UF looked, and they chose. Are you saying they’re wrong? It’s their choice who they want to go their school. Now if the person bribed them into letting him in, THAT would be unfair. BUt ultimately, UF chose him. Get over it.</p>

<p>The OP states he is Hispanic. If he is of Mexican or Puerto Rican descent, he was probably considered URM.</p>

<p>@indianguy94</p>

<p>No. I don’t believe so. He’s still a FL resident. The only difference is that he is reviewed as an “international student” which means his application isn’t reviewed by just a regular admissions officer. Schools have to fulfill certain quotas and need to have a certain amount of international students. Being an international student is often viewed as a “hook”</p>

<p>I don’t know what URM is exactly. I am of Mexican descent and I live in Florida (Miami Dade county). I didn’t apply as an international student.</p>

<p>Florida Dad what is your problem? Im sorry if your kid didn’t make into Uf or whatever but really. Life moves on and your kid will have a great time at some other University. You really need to shut the **** up. If you really are a dad you should be ashamed. This kid shouldn’t have to feel bad about being accepted into a university, no one should. The admissions are not truly randomn. There is alot of the application beyond the obvious stats. There is financial history, ethnicity, past acomplishments, and the essay does count for alot. Obviously Uf saw something that they wanted. Now if your ****ed off at UF, screw em and send your kid elsewhere cause I dont want have to deal with your type at the homecoming game.</p>

<p>I am a current gator and I know stats dont actually mount up to crap. A lot of people get really good scores on SAT and cant even pass Calc 1. Just bc your smart doesn’t mean you will do good. You have to be a hard worker. Maybe they saw that in his essay. UF wizard congrats on being a gator, I hope to see you in the fall.</p>

<p>It is understandable for a student with a high GPA and test scores who got rejected to see a student with GPA’s and test scores below the mean average get accepted and be upset. I think the first thing one needs to realize is that this happens in a very small percentage of cases. Such admissions are outliers of the basic principle that admission to UF is primarily numbers driven.It is for almost all students a meritocracy.But with applications close to 30,000 there are simply too many quaslified students to meet the demand. However the admission decision making process is not completely monolithic. UF as a large public university must use a geographical matrix which allows students from each of Florida’s 67 counties to be admitted. Secondly, the Florida Talented Twenty Program where the principal of each Florida public high school to nominate three top GPA students which guarantees admission into one of Florida’s 4 year universities. Some of those students end up at UF and are admitted if they meet the minimum SAT/ACT score requirements. Thirdly, there are genuine affirmative action and diversity considerations which UF makes to reach what they want in the overall composition of the make up of the freshman class. Each student whether admitted or rejected by UF should not let that decision define who they are. Ultimately, excellent students with a strong work ethic and drive will be successful at whatever college or university they end up at.</p>

<p>@UFwizard I was in the same boat as you last year, surprised that I was accepted with similar stats. Just be happy with your acceptance as only YOU got into UF, it wasn’t some magical force or luck, it is all you right now. I’m here now, feeling blessed, and taking advantage of every opportunity this place has offer! When you get here and start working hard in whatever you plan on, you’ll feel super blessed knowing that UF saw something in you. </p>

<p>@FloridaDad Stop hating on this kid, academics AREN’T everything. Did your kid not get into UF? I sense some frustration and envy in you</p>

<p>@Gator4ever Get off your high horse and congratulate the kid. He worked hard and earned his opportunity just like everyone else. Plus, UF has some pretty easy classes, it’s not all study, study, study. We aren’t on the top ten list of party school for nothing you know. You should know that from being an alumni.</p>

<p>Honestly, no offense, but this is stupid post. I mean, what is the point of it? Nothing good is coming from it. Ufwizard, what did you think could come of this? Either people are going to boost your self-esteem by telling you that you deserved it or you got lucky, or they’re going to get mad at you because you got in and they/their children didn’t. Neither option helps others or really even helps you. </p>

<p>And you all need to stop arguing, jeez. Everyone just calm yo’ beans.</p>

<p>you heard the man, calm 'yo beans. everyone go home.</p>

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<p>Got Big Dreams:</p>

<p>FYI, my kid DID get into UF. So I have no ulterior motives here. </p>

<p>I simply deplore the fact that this kid got in with what appears to be a totally mediocre record in every respect, while others who are obviously far more qualified got rejected. I think that you are trying to defend the indefensible. This is a clear injustice to those truly qualified students who were rejected, and I can sympathize with those students in his high school class, and those who posted messages on this thread who have 4.0 weighted gpa’s and 2000 SATs, who were passed over by UF in favor of him. </p>

<p>You might consider the fact that he himself cannot identify a single strong point in his application. </p>

<p>Further, I am not sure that UF necessarily did him a favor, because he will be competing with kids with 2100 SAT scores. And 4.3 UF weighted gpa’s.</p>

<p>I didn’t notice the part about him being of Mexican descent. I am not sure if this is the reason he got in. I hope not. I say this because while I am in favor of legitimate affirmative action, he made no mention of any hardship in his life. Have we reached the point in America where simply being Mexican is now good enough, on its own, to get you into a top university?. And even if he is counted as a URM, it would STILL seem to me that there are URMs with much better academic and EC records out there, who were not offered admission. </p>

<p>This does not mean I do not wish the kid well at UF, and I hope he does well. There is nothing personal involved here. I specifically said that I am not “mad” at HIM. I am “mad” at UF. He doesn’t have to feel bad about getting in. But I am not sure he should necessarily feel proud either. At best, he should feel lucky. And strive to truly EARN the gift that has been given to him. As Tom Hanks, the Captain in Saving Private Ryan, as he lay dying, said to Private Ryan, “earn this”. I hope this kid four years from now will post a message on College Confidential telling everyone his story, and how it spurred him on to truly earn the gift he has been given.</p>

<p>He posted a message. He deserves a serious response, and not a “politically correct, feel good” response of “it is peachy keen you got into UF with a 1500 SAT, a 21 ACT, and 3.5 weighted gpa and no ECs, and that those who got rejected with far superior records should just grin and bear it because they really are just a bunch of jerks”. For some of these kids who were rejected, UF was their dream school, and they worked hard to get admitted. No one should gripe if they don’t get into their dream school because someone more deserving beat them out, but that is not the situation here. So these kids have a right to be angry. And even though my kid got in, I have a right to sympathize with those deserving kids whose spot was given to someone less deserving. </p>

<p>You might also consider the fact that you might be singing a different tune if it were YOUR spot at UF that had been given to him.</p>

<p>In defense of ufwizard…I know kids who were pretty mediocre in HS, but did amazingly well in college. One girl got into an Ivy League school all because of her connections. She really did not have the stats to get in. Everyone at our school was irritated and frustated at her b/c of it. In the end though she ended up doing really well and flourished on her own in college and has a great job now. You really can’t just assume that ufwizard is going to do poorly at UF just b/c of his stats. Even some kids who have the stats to get in don’t always do too well.
At this point it doesn’t really matter. He got in for Summer, so if he does well enough he will be able to continue at UF.</p>

<p>Hey… Original poster… if you see this.</p>

<p>Congratulations!</p>

<p>My statistics were quite similar to you and had many people complain about my acceptance. Honestly… Just be thankful! People work their entire high school careers to come here and you are fortunate enough to have been accepted. I wish you the best in your college career.</p>

<p>CONGRATS! and honestly, you shouldn’t give a crap about what other people say</p>

<p>the UF admissions officers were the ones who decided that you should have gotten in and thats that. </p>

<p>they saw something in you that they liked and thats why they accepted you.</p>

<p>and just because you have perfect scores doesn’t mean you will get in. UF looks at a lot of different things in an applicant. they can’t all accept perfect 4.0 2200+ students. </p>

<p>im so grateful that i got in with a 3.4 UW (3.8 UF W) 1880 SAT
but i also had a ton of extra curricula’s and leadership roles so that i think helped me a lot.
but still, don’t get all caught up about this. its their problem not yours. and I’m sure they will be just as successful somewhere else</p>

<p>“I have a right to sympathize with those deserving kids whose spot was given to someone less deserving.”</p>

<p>Ok have does one go about saying who deserves something more? I’m so glad you don’t work at Admissions since you seem to have such a black and white way of looking at things. Besides, I’m sure kids with better stats got into better schools.</p>

<p>I’m not normally the one attacking people but your comments really hit close to home for me since I was that kid last year with literally the same stats, if not a little lower and I’m not ashamed to say so (although I did have good ECs). I’ll even go as far to say that UF was not even my first choice. Does that bother you? Does that make me less deserving since I’m not UF obsessed.</p>

<p>Original Poster - go to UF with big aspirations and do all you can to be successful to show people like FloridaDad why you got in. Trust me, I’ve seen people with “higher stats” or who were “more deserving” literally throw away their education away and party hard and lose all control. Don’t end up like these people and prove this guy’s point.</p>

<p>Congratulations and welcome to the Gator Nation! Looking forward to seeing you around campus! Best of luck to you in the future!</p>

<p>Just ignore FloridaDad, seriously. The majority of us all disagree with him. He’s obviously bitter about SOMETHING, and his priorities are misplaced. :slight_smile: Congratulations to you, and I hope to see you next year! :slight_smile: Or, I guess, in a few months!</p>

<p>@floridadad55 and everyone else against this admission decision: I am outraged by the selfishness and lack of respect in this forum, how can someone just say that he doesn’t deserve an admission? How you dare to call someone mediocre based on quantitative data only without even knowing this person? He was admitted PERIOD! The fact that someone “hard working disadvantaged URM kid” didn’t get admitted it is not our problem, don’t tell me now that life is fair. When I mean random -and that is not even the right word- I mean HOLISTIC, we take MANY factors into consideration and some people just rely on numbers, well, we are not Harvard. I have seen BRILLIANT students with great admission stats throw everything away in frat parties and by thinking they know everything. Sometimes when one sees something as a whole it makes it completely different and UF might have seen a this student as a good fit for the university community. GET OVER IT!</p>

<p>^Preach dude!</p>

<p>I’m sorry that I have to keep posting, but after fully reading what @FloridaDad posted just makes me angry. This man needs to watch his tone so he doesn’t come off as an utter jerk (a nicer way to put it). I mean cmon, you’re grown…</p>

<p>Again, congrats on getting in and NEVER let anyone unless you are less deserving or less hardworking</p>

<p>One quote I always keep in mind is “Success is the ultimate revenge”</p>

<p>So again, ignore the hate and enjoy your success! Welcome to the Gator Nation! Good luck with all your future endeavors!</p>