<p>I don't know if this only happens at my high school, but atleast 4 kids every year get into an ivy league/top 10 school after cheating all through hs or getting horrible grades. This is for various reasons.</p>
<p>Two HUGE douche-y stoner guys who cheated in every AP both are now going to Dartmouth, and they have an older brother who goes there. The older brother was also an asshole stoner throughout hs, but paid a local stanford student to take his SAT for him, got a near perfect score, and got into Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Another girl who has a parent that works at Stanford got in and she has a 2.8 gpa, and has never taken a single AP class, maybe one AS (honors) class. </p>
<p>These are just two examples, there are more. </p>
<p>Is this just my hs? This is at a middle-upper class public school in the bay area.</p>
<p>Most of our kids (also a middle-upper class public bay area school) don’t do that, as far as I know; but then again, I’m a rising sophomore xD
For us, the kids who go to Columbia are usually part of Journalism or the TV program, Stanford, Harvard, and Yale kids are just crazy, crazy smart (I know one of the girls who got into all three, and she got 5s on 15 AP tests), MIT kids are the people who won a gazillion science awards, etc. However, a lot of people do cheat at my high school for that perfect 4.0; most of these kids go to like, Berkeley. Most of our Ivy/Stanford kids are just naturally really, really smart.</p>
<p>This is horrible! My school has ‘stoners’ but they end up living in their parent’s basements and working at McDonalds OR going into the army. I really don’t think legacies should be honored. It doesn’t make sense at all. Not all smart parents are able to raise smart kids!!! If someone cheats on those tests and it travels through the school to you, you would think SOMEONE would have said SOMETHING!! </p>
<p>Yeah, at my school, tons of people cheat. They did a survey in the school newspaper, and I think 30-40% of people had cheated on a test in the past year.</p>
<p>Yep. I think the most rampant form at our school is copying homework during lunch or whatever (most of my friends do this, too; and I suppose I’ve become an accessory at times) simply because people sign up for too many activities and are under incredible pressure to do well.</p>
<p>@Spiral7 I mean actual copying, though. Like, I’ll-give-my-paper-to-my-friend-so-she-can-copy-it-and-get-points-for-homework copying. The collaboration is a blurred line, but most of the time, copying is what happened. Around 60% of students admitted to copying homework at least once at my school, 18% had copied off of others during tests, 30% had cheated on a test in one way or form, 28% have told someone in a later period the answers, 19% have used false/forged excuses to get out of turning in a project or taking a test… The list goes on and on. </p>
<p>I always look at cheating like this:
If you are going to cheat, the only person you are truly cheating is - of course - yourself. Those who honestly go through school, and life for that matter, can live with 1.) no guilt (hopefully) and 2.) the knowledge that they did everything in their <em>honest</em> power to succeed.<br>
Don’t focus on what others do to reach their goals, just stay focused on yourself and your respective hopes</p>
<p>Would it be too much to ask for schools to require admits to take a general aptitude test proctored by school officials and with intelligent security implementations… like checking IDs and actually looking at the photos? </p>
<p>So if a kid cheated on the SATs to boost his stats, he’d be caught out in the pre-entrance exam.</p>