Univ. of Washington v. UC Santa Barbara for pre-med

<p>My goal is to attend UCSF, and I would like to know which school would better prepare me for the MCAT and medical school.</p>

<p>University of Washington:
-I have been accepted into the Honors Program.
-I have not visited the campus, but I've been drooling at pictures.
-I like Seattle.
-The University of Washington Graduate School is highly regarded. Would this mean that the undergraduate program would be good as well?
-Expensive.</p>

<p>UC Santa Barbara:
-I have not yet received financial aid from either, and money is an issue. I am a resident of California.
-Closer to home. Not a big factor.
-I've visited the campus, and it is beautiful.
-I don't care much for its party school reputation.</p>

<p>I feel I'm being unfairly biased toward UoW since I don't know very much about UCSB. From the research I've done so far, UCSB also sends a fair amount of students to medical school. Would it be easier to transfer into another UC from UCSB? So please tell me:</p>

<p>Which has a better pre-med program?
What is your experience from one of these schools?
How easy/difficult would it be to change my major in either school? I applied to all my schools as an Art History major thinking I wanted to be a curator. I've realized that's not for me.</p>

<p>So I guess that's two issues here. I realize it is a long post and thank you for reading all the way. I would appreciate any help you can provide.</p>

<p>How big is the net cost difference?</p>

<p>You can major in art history or almost anything else while taking the pre-med courses alongside.</p>

<p>While U-Dub is a wonderful school, the cheaper, and money is an “issue”, instate deal is a no-brainer for premed. While everyone is out partying you can be in the library setting the curve. Win-win.</p>

<p>If your goal is UCSF, however, the answer is none-of-the above. The top feeder schools to SF are Cal and Stanford, which comprise 30% of the class.</p>

<p>btw: UDub doesn’t come close to meeting full financial need of its own residents, so unless Coach Sark is calling, don’t expect much finaid.</p>

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No, its not. You might think it is right now, but when you are a senior and applying to med school you are going to be fervently wishing for an acceptance to a US medical school. Any one of them.</p>

<p>Second, since you say money is an issue, this is a no-brainer. Go to the less expensive one. And as far as that party rep at UCSB, any college where all the students live on/near campus is going to have parties. That’s what kids 18-22 like to do! But it doesn’t mean they’ll force you to take part, or that you can’t make good friends and get a great education if you don’t take part. I suggest talking to some students from your school you may know who graduated ahead of you and are now UCSB students.</p>

<p>Likely not much difference here. Two large public universities with reputable undergraduate programs operating under the typical large bureaucratic university administration. Save some bucks and choose UCSB. If the $$ situation doesn’t intimidate you, then follow your dreams and head to Montlake (the UW Seattle campus).</p>

<p>No, its not. You might think it is right now, but when you are a senior and applying to med school you are going to be fervently wishing for an acceptance to a US medical school. Any one of them.</p>

<p>Amen
it’s a blessing to get accepted to any one US MD School of Medicine. never focus on any ONE particular SOM. </p>

<p>All US MD SOMs are excellent. This isn’t like undergrad
all are very good
not a “so so” one in the bunch.</p>

<p>Since you note that attending UWash will be expensive, then why is this a question. You don’t waste money on undergrad when the choices are rather similar
at least similar enough for your goals.</p>

<p>Excuse me for my ignorance, but what do you mean that UCSF is not a US school of medicine? And it’s not that I wouldn’t consider going to any other school. I just know I want to get into a good medical school and I happen to like San Francisco.</p>

<p>Whoops. I read over the replies again
 please ignore the above post. Where is the edit button on these things?</p>

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<p>in talking to several people who have received doctorates, it would seem the academic community ‘prefers’ someone to get their education from different places. Two of those I talked to specifically mentioned that they would be better off making a career away from the school they got the PHD at.</p>

<p>if you intend to end up at UCSF, perhaps it would be best to get you pre-med elsewhere
UW is certainly known to offer a quality pre-med education
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<p>good luck to you!</p>

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<p>Since UCSF offers only graduate level education in health professions (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, and nursing), a student aiming for UCSF would be doing the pre-med (or pre-whatever) elsewhere.</p>

<p>All US MD schools are considered good, but all are considered highly competitive for admissions. None can be considered safeties for anyone.</p>

<p>Don’t you have an advantage for admission as an in-state residence, or is it not true any more?</p>

<p>in talking to several people who have received doctorates, it would seem the academic community ‘prefers’ someone to get their education from different places.</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>the student PLANS on getting his education at two different places. UCSF doesn’t even have undergrad.</p>

<p>His choices are UCSB or UWash
neither of those schools are UCSF. </p>

<p>Anyway
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<p>Yct
 You can want to go to med school in San Francisco, but in reality, your chances are like 1% that you would end up there. Students are now applying to 15 -20 US MD SOMS with the HOPE of getting accepted to ONE. Heck, even getting an interview can be impossible. </p>

<p>At this point, you have no idea if your MCAT, your cum GPA, or your science GPA (BCMP) will be high enough for you to be truly competitive for admission to UCSF SOM.</p>

<p>To give you an example. My pre-med son will be applying to SOMs this summer. We would LOVE for him to be accepted to our best state SOM because it is very strong. He has staight As, but he won’t take the MCAT til the end of this month, so we don’t know how that will go. However, we have to be realistic. He’ll probably apply to about 18 SOMs
and we’ll just keep our fingers crossed. :)</p>

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<p>Perhaps true, but not relevant. Admission to grad programs (PhDs) is much different than professional schools (law, med, biz). Grad schools generally do prefer that you go somewhere else. Med/law schools don’t care.</p>

<p>Regarding Post #11:</p>

<p>Some publicly supported medical schools do bestow priority to applicants whom are state residents. This is true of UWashington. Also, the UW medical school reserve some seats for students as per a compact with a few other western states, particularly Alaska, Idaho and Montana.</p>

<p>I would go with the best FA package - they are so equal - that said the intangibles seem to push you toward UW. If UW was within 3K or less I would opt for UW.</p>

<p>gosh mom - i am at a loss
it was only my assumption that a UC accounted for UC’s statewide when that suggestion was posed to our son
clarification would be best for him
but actually this is YTB’s thread so I will not hijack
</p>

<p>* i am at a loss
it was only my assumption that a UC accounted for UC’s statewide when that suggestion was posed to our son
clarification would be best for him
but actually this is YTB’s thread so I will not hijack*</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>Are you saying that you’re treating all the UCs as one big school? They’re individual schools. Besides med schools don’t care where you went.</p>

<p>And the “rule” that you should go to a different grad school than your undergrad is so that you’ll be exposed to more profs in the subject matter
because each prof can only share so much of his/her expertise (often furthered by his research)
 Obviously, if you were to go to UCSD for undergrad and then Cal for a PhD, your profs won’t be the same people.</p>

<p>mom - you are so kind to clarify :)</p>