University of Maryland or University of South Carolina?

I am duplicating my post from the UMD forum, would like to hear from people interested in both schools…

I’ve narrowed my choices down to University of Maryland Scholars program, and University of South Carolina Honors college. I live in Maryland, and was given instate tuition at USC plus another scholarship that makes USC slightly less expensive for me - but its basically a wash when you add in expected travel expenses. I have 2 weeks to decide and am torn down the middle. I like USC campus a little more, I like the southern hospitality and atmosphere. When I visited, I was given the impression that I would have amazing support from professors in the honors college not to mention that the Honors housing is super nice. Most of my high school friends and kids I’ve grown up with are going to UMD, so that is hard to ignore as well as I feel like if I choose USC I am giving up a more selective University which is also hard to do. However, while sitting in on Honors discussions at USC I felt that I would be able to do whatever I wanted in my future and I would be at the top of my class (which is doubtful if I go to UMD). What would you choose?

I forgot to mention, that UMD is an hour from home and USC is 10 hours away. I am also worried about the distance as i am close with my family.

My D loved USC’s honors college. I don’t know anything about UMD but the stats for the HC classes are pretty high - it’s a smart group of kids and USC has #1 public honors program. You would be in good company with kids from your neck of the woods.

What is your intended major? You might be a clearer picture comparing the two if you look at specific programs. I’m sure each school has specific strengths.

How comfortable you are going further away from home is something only you can decide. I will say that at the end of the 4 yrs, the HC has a ceremony that recognizes graduates and gives them a chance to speak. Many specifically mention the “5th floor gang” (or whatever part of HR they lived in) as special group of friends that stayed connected throughout their time at USC. D felt that way about the friend group she made freshman year on the 2nd floor. You will find a group of friends no matter what you choose.

Good luck! Love to see you at USC in the fall!

My D is finishing her first year at Carolina, and the Honors College has been a great experience. She has taken five Honors classes ranging in size from 8 to 30. Some are Honors versions of required classes (e.g., English, Accounting) and some are specific to the Honors College. She couldn’t get into every class she wanted for next year because the classes are small (often 15 max). You would likely be able to take Honors versions of basic classes like Calc right away, while you might have to wait for some of the “cooler” classes like American Cyborgs or History of the Devil. A nice surprise was that her non-Honors classes have also been pretty small (25 to 40 students).

The Honors Dorm is nice and there are activities (especially in the beginning of the year) to meet the other SCHC first-years (there were 488 in this most recent class). The location is excellent. For later years, there is on-campus housing tied to Honors (650 Lincoln, which is a new apartment complex, as well as the Horseshoe, which is the heart of campus and harder to get into as they are small buildings). The overall campus is very walkable considering its size. You might want to check if UMD has housing specific to Honors students, what the location is like, and whether it’s available beyond Year 1 if you want to continue to live on campus.

As @scmom12 noted, SCHC’s Honors College is consistently ranked as one of the top public Honors Colleges in the U.S. Admission is very selective, the overall size of the HC is limited, and it is difficult to transfer in because of the number of Honors credits required. I don’t know anything about the Scholars or Honors program at UMD; but one of the reasons the SCHC kids get extra “perks” is because there aren’t that many of them (less than 7% of the undergrad population). Lots of very bright kids are not accepted into the SCHC, so the fact that you were is significant. You will have a chance to shine, but expect to be challenged and to meet many other students as talented as you.

SC was 41% OOS for this past year so you will not feel out of place. While some students go home on the occasional weekend, many in the Honors Dorm are there all the time as they live quite a distance away (my D is from PA, her roommate for next year is from CT, and she has three friends from MD). To get to SC, you can fly into Charlotte and take a shuttle ($55 one-way) or fly into Columbia (sometimes fares are really reasonable). Around Thanksgiving and Spring Break, there are free shuttles to the Columbia airport, and an Uber is about $12. The Amtrak station is within walking distance of campus but the schedules aren’t very convenient (meaning the train leaves and arrives in the middle of the night). My kid is a 10 hour drive also. We drove her down for drop-off and I will pick her up next week. We also drove down, as a family, for a football game in the fall.

You mention going to college with people you’ve known your whole life, but realize that you won’t ever see most of them. It might be nice to have the option to go home when you want, maybe bringing along a new friend, but then you’re missing out on things at school. My D’s roommate lives about 2 hours away from Carolina and she has gone home nearly every weekend. While she is friendly with several students (including my D), she has missed out on football games, parties, dinners out, Saturday mornings at Waffle House, etc. Social life is not the reason to choose a school, but it really is an important aspect of college life.

You have two excellent options. Congratulations.

My DD had to make a similar decision. We finally looked at it from the financial perspective…she chose the OOS option with the scholarship. If she didn’t like it, she could transfer to the in-state school. If she started at the in-state, she would not be able to change back to the OOS school as that scholarship as it was only open to incoming freshmen. She ended up loving South Carolina.

One thing to keep in mind you will have bumps at either choice. Whichever one you choose you will have days you’ll think you blew it! GCBMIB’s advice, above, is probably very good strategy for you as well.

We’re from Illinois and our daughter’s final choice came down to and was similar to yours - stay home at the University of Illinois or go south to USC. Illinois is considered more prestigious than USC - one of the top engineering schools in the country, etc. Her closest friends from high school were going to Illinois and so were within two hours of home. She really liked Illinois as a school/campus.

But … she just loved her visits at USC. The campus is gorgeous and so southern, both in architecture and landscape. And she wanted to push her independence and growth as a person. While she has some friends from South Carolina, many if not most of her friends are from out of state - the northeast, Colorado, California and the mid-Atlantic states, and some from the midwest as well, so she feels like she’s really at a national university there.

She had the aforementioned bumps, especially freshman year, and after her first summer home with her friends she was dragging herself back to USC in August. That feeling lasted until she got back to her friends at USC hah. But I think she would have felt like she was, I don’t know, settling or chickening out to stay in Illinois. And that she’d regret not expanding her horizons as she got older.

She’s a very proud and extremely content Gamecock as she finishes her second year there. Honestly, some of her Illinois friends now are kind of bored there and jealous of her decision! And for you, attending the number one undergraduate honors college in the nation can’t be a bad thing :wink: Just make up your mind to bloom where ever you decide to plant, and best of luck in your decision!

Our son is a sophomore from MD. He’s just in regular classes, so won’t comment there, but on transportation, agree that it’s been pretty easy and inexpensive flying directly from Columbia to National (Reagan) for breaks.

If you got into USC Honors, it’d be hard to pass up. It’s a very, very good Honors College.
What would your major be? UMD has the upperhand for Cybersecurity for example, and USC for International Business.

So a year later,what was your decision? My daughter will be in a similar situation.