University of Michigan EA class of 2020 thread

I thought it used to show “Under Review” or something similar but it doesn’t show anything other than the links to check credentials. Maybe I’m getting it confused with other schools I’ve applied to.

@bryan925 yep mine is the same

@thebloom I was observing that too. Someone also told me they can see who a student reported their ACT score report to directly (like right on the exam sheet). Therefore, they can see who a student put as their #1, #2, etc. Almost “perfect” applicants were getting deferred last year most likely because they were waiting out for their #1 Ivy they put, for instance. That student most likely wouldnt pick UM as their #1, or accept right away. The “average” student who put UM as their #1 is more likely to accept/attend UM right away, benefiting the yield. This is just speculation, but is interesting to question.

@thebloom I heard the same thing. If you use the free score reports, supposedly the colleges can see which schools you are sending your ACT to. That process should be corrected by the ACT; it should be private information.

Well, it’s certainly unethical of UMich to defer these applicants just because they’re aiming higher

Seriously? The schools can see the other schools you listed on the ACT free report? I suppose it shouldn’t matter, but schools are treating admission as a business these day.

I did hear that a lot of people with 4.0s and 2400’s were wait listed by Michigan because that was their safety school. I guess Michigan doesn’t like being an Ivy safety.

@tigerbookmark it’s a franchise nowadays

Whatever happened to selectively choosing the best students and let the process irons itself out :frowning: Anyways, students with perfect 4.0s and 2400s are probably not bothered by Michigan’s decision.

it’s also why Michigan’s admissions statistics are so high. There is no way that the average student at Umich had a 3.9 gpa in high school and a 2160 on their SAT. It’s the ivies that raise the statistics when they apply there for safety.

Is that 3.9 weighted or unweighted? I’ve noticed that universities tend to inflate the numbers to give the appearance of selectivity in order to attract top applicants. You’re probably right, these statistics are likely raised based on the ivies bound students. I wonder what the stats would look like based on the students who actually chose to attend UMich. Those numbers would be more representative.

taken from collegedata.com, but i still think it’s too inflated.
Qualifications of Enrolled Freshmen
Average GPA 3.81
SAT Math 660-760 range of middle 50%
SAT Critical Reading 620-720 range of middle 50%
SAT Writing 640-730 range of middle 50%
ACT Composite 29-33 range of middle 50%

Check the common data set if you want the correct statistics - unis cannot lie there

Those numbers still seem high. I’m not sure if the absolute GPA number really make any sense, given the diversity in how teachers and schools grade. I think you would have to assess the GPA relative to each school. Class ranking is one possibility, but even that is fraught with errors. But I suppose each school has to find some legitimate way to quantify admission metrics.

Well, if Umich only accepted those 4.0 2400 SAT students they wouldn’t have much of an entering class, lol. Their percent attending to percent accepted ratio would be very low, which doesn’t look favorable to ranks, etc.

Yeah, that’s there as well. It’s unfortunate that UMich in that category of unis which are very very good, but not one of the very best, like Arsenal in the english premier league :’)

Historically Michigan never gave much financial aid for OOS students either, so not as much of an incentive to attend for those who have other options, especially excellent privates that do give a lot of aid.
I know I chose Michigan because they actually gave me full tuition and then some, based on need-based aid (I’m OOS). This is only because of a brand-new campaign they had last year to increase aid for OOS students, though. I’m sure if they keep this up, it would help the yield as well.

@McKilla99 Does that make OSU Tottenham and MSU Crystal Palace?

@eyo777 Did you find out the “full tuition and then some…” after you filed FAFSA in January or when you were accepted in December? And would you please share your stats?
Thanks! We are oos here.

@hailbate It makes MSU Sunderland :stuck_out_tongue: