*******University of Michigan vs. Univeristy of Virginia******

<p>I've been accepted into both of these schools, I like them both alot, and I'm going to be an athlete. Track and Field specifically, the advantages i see UVA has over Michigan is weather and a better history program(which my major will be). The advantages I see Michigan has over UVA is a larger alumni network and an overall better environment for the student athlete. All feedback is welcome an firsthand accounts of your experience at Michigan or UVA and the opportunities it has provided for you are greatly appreciated thanks alot.</p>

<p>how are you in uva already?</p>

<p>their app process starts in januray</p>

<p>^^^because he’s an athlete. A coach can pretty much gurantee spots to recruits if he’s satisfied with their SAT’s and GPA.</p>

<p>UVA is not better in history than Michigan.</p>

<p>I don’t think any public University, other than maybe Berkeley and UCLA, comes close to Michigan in the humanities.</p>

<p>As for sports, I think that is self explanatory.</p>

<p>thanks are there any weaknesses to University of Michigan or anything you think they can improve on.</p>

<p>I would say that there is a weakness in advising. There are also GSI’s that need to speak better English, especially in math. The math department could use work. Also for history and Poly Sci there are professors that are very liberal. I can’t think of anything else.</p>

<p>students academic quality </p>

<p>oos:UM=UVA
instate:UM>>UVA
why…W&M instate > UVA instate</p>

<p>eoliver, I am not sure who told you UVa has a better History department than Michigan. Michigan’s History department is ranked #7 in the nation, and the gap between #1 and #10 is tiny. For example, Harvard’s History department is ranked #5. Below are the latest rankings according to the USNWR:</p>

<h1>1 Princeton University 4.8/5.0</h1>

<h1>1 Stanford University 4.8/5.0</h1>

<h1>1 University of California-Berkeley 4.8/5.0</h1>

<h1>1 Yale University 4.8/5.0</h1>

<h1>5 Harvard University 4.7/5.0</h1>

<h1>5 University of Chicago 4.7/5.0</h1>

<h1>7 Columbia University 4.6/5.0</h1>

<h1>7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.6/5.0</h1>

<h1>9 Johns Hopkins University 4.5/5.0</h1>

<h1>9 University of California-Los Angeles 4.5/5.0</h1>

<h1>9 University of Pennsylvania 4.5/5.0</h1>

<h1>12 Cornell University 4.4/5.0</h1>

<h1>12 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 4.4/5.0</h1>

<p>Gap</p>

<h1>14 Duke University 4.2/5.0</h1>

<h1>14 Northwestern University 4.2/5.0</h1>

<h1>14 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2/5.0</h1>

<h1>17 Brown University 4.1/5.0</h1>

<h1>17 New York University 4.1/5.0</h1>

<h1>17 University of Texas-Austin 4.1/5.0</h1>

<h1>20 Rutgers University-New Brunswick 4.0/5.0</h1>

<h1>20 University of Virginia 4.0/5.0</h1>

<p>BREAKDOWN BY SPECIALITY:</p>

<p>African History:
Michigan #3
UVa not ranked among the top 10</p>

<p>Asian History:
Michigan #8
UVa not ranked among the top 10</p>

<p>European History:
Michigan #5
UVa not ranked among the top 20</p>

<p>Latin American History:
Michigan #7
UVa not ranked among the top 10</p>

<p>Modern US History:
Michigan #8
UVa #8</p>

<p>US Colonial History:
UVa #6
Michigan #7</p>

<p>Virginia has a very good History department, but Michigan’s History department is slightly better. Generally speaking, Michigan is practically unbeatable in the Social Sciences and the Humanities.</p>

<p>Thanks, I had no clue. Does anyone know what the typical temperature is in the winter. Coming from Illinois I know what cold is, but having the lake effect makes Chicago considerably colder.</p>

<p>Ann Arbor and Chicago have very similar weather. I have been in both places and have not experienced any significant differences.</p>

<p>Correct. Ann Arbor and Chicago are quite similar weatherwise; Madison (Wisconsin) is slightly colder. The lake effect of Lake Michigan actually makes Chicago a bit warmer in the winter (and cooler in the summer, the nearer one is to the lake) than it would be without the lake. The lake acts as a heat sink. Look at a temperature zone map for plants.</p>

<p>I actually think that Chicago is significantly colder in the winter. It must be the wind or something…</p>

<p>Temperature wise, they are the same, but Chicago’s wind-tunnel and lake-front effect make it more frigid.</p>

<p>I don’t want to make this thread more complicated, but I will explain why I think Ann Arbor and Chicago have similar weather:</p>

<p>A month ago, I had to drive to Macomb County for an early morning appointment. I noticed my car windows had ICE. I had to use my ice scrapper to remove the ice along with turning on the defrost (I currently live in Ann Arbor). On the other hand, my relatives in Detroit (45 miles away) did not even have to use their car defrost. Their car windows were fine. They even looked surprised at me. How is this so?</p>

<p>My temperatures are from wunderground.com (9:10am):</p>

<p>Ann Arbor:
41.7 'F Overcast<br>
(High: 49 'F)<br>
Windchill: 42 'F</p>

<p>Detroit:
44.0 ‘F Overcast<br>
(High: 52’ 'F)<br>
Windchill: 44 'F</p>

<p>Chicago:
42.9 'F Partly Cloudy<br>
(High: 52 'F)<br>
Windchill: 43 'F</p>

<p>Results:
From my own experiences (and the data supports it), Detroit is warmer than Ann Arbor. Detroit is typically warmer than Chicago. Ann Arbor and Chicago have roughly similar weather (Ann Arbor is colder because its location is more inland). OP, if you are used to Chicago weather, Ann Arbor is not much different.</p>

<p>Wow thanks, I didn’t Ann Arbor was that cold. Does anyone know how that affects the students social life; do they shack up after November and don’t brave the State street wind tunnel, or do parties and activities still take place.</p>

<p>There are parties year round. For example, Halloween night it was like 32 degrees and there were still parties, of course it was Halloween. I think there are parties year round regardless…</p>