<p>I think that is pretty accurate although there is still a small gap but UMinn has many excellent areas. They are considering downsizing the school and getting rid of the open enrollment college.</p>
<p>Nationally it doesn't have a bad rep, its peer assessment rating was 3.7 and that would put it like 40 overall. That is what I think it should be about. It is a great school and that 74 is BS. I think it is just another underrated public university. The peer assessment ranking(there was a post where someone did the whole thing) is a good ranking of prestige and it doesn't penalize publics. IU is underrated also and so is University of Arizona. Purdue is ranked low as is Maryland and Texas. Texas really should be about 20 spots up. UMD about 15, Purdue about 15-20, Minnisota should be about 35 up, IU should be aout 30. minnisota is disgustingly underrated in the rankings.</p>
<p>Why is that? Is there a specific stat that pulls it down in US news? It has top 20 engineering and business programs and I have always thought of it as a good school.</p>
<p>It shouldnt get **** if you cannot even spell the state's name correctly.....</p>
<p>^^ lol, i think I shouldn't get **** because i am dumb enough not to spell it correctly.</p>
<p>US NEWS PEER ASSESSMENT RATINGS (2004?)</p>
<p>1 Princeton University (NJ) 4.9
1 Harvard University (MA) 4.9
1 Massachusetts Inst. of Technology 4.9
1 Stanford University (CA) 4.9
5 Yale University (CT) 4.8
6 California Institute of Technology 4.7
6 University of Chicago 4.7
6 University of California Berkeley * 4.7
9 Columbia University (NY) 4.6
9 Cornell University (NY) 4.6
9 Johns Hopkins University (MD) 4.6
9 University of Michigan Ann Arbor * 4.6
13 Duke University (NC) 4.5
13 University of Pennsylvania 4.5
15 Dartmouth College (NH) 4.4
15 Northwestern University (IL) 4.4
15 Brown University (RI) 4.4
15 University of Virginia * 4.4
19 Univ. of California Los Angeles * 4.3
19 Univ. of Wisconsin Madison * 4.3
21 Washington University in St. Louis 4.2
21 Rice University (TX) 4.2
21 Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.2
21 U. of North Carolina Chapel Hill * 4.2
25 Emory University (GA) 4.1
25 Vanderbilt University (TN) 4.1
25 Georgia Institute of Technology * 4.1
25 U. of Illinois Urbana - Champaign * 4.1
25 University of Texas Austin * 4.1
30 Georgetown University (DC) 4
30 University of Washington * 4
32 University of Notre Dame (IN) 3.9
32 Univ. of California San Diego * 3.9
32 Pennsylvania State U. University Park * 3.9
35 Univ. of Southern California 3.8
35 College of William and Mary (VA)* 3.8
35 New York University 3.8
35 University of California Davis * 3.8
35 Purdue Univ. West Lafayette (IN)* 3.8
35 Univ. of Minnesota Twin Cities * 3.8
35 Indiana University Bloomington * 3.8</p>
<p>Accepted Already did it for the 2005 year in this thread <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=152068&highlight=PEER+ASSESSMENT%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=152068&highlight=PEER+ASSESSMENT</a></p>
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- Harvard University Massachusetts Institute of Technology Princeton University Stanford University Yale University </p>
<ol> <li><p>University of California, Berkeley </p></li> <li><p>California Institute of Technology Columbia University </p></li> <li><p>Cornell University Duke University Johns Hopkins University University of Chicago </p></li> <li><p>University of Michigan University of Pennsylvania </p></li> <li><p>Brown University Dartmouth University Northwestern University </p></li> <li><p>University of California, Los Angeles University of Virginia </p></li> <li><p>Carnegie Mellon University University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill University of Wisconsin - Madison </p></li> <li><p>Rice University Washington University in St. Louis </p></li> <li><p>Vanderbilt University Emory University Georgia Institute of Technology University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign University of Texas at Austin </p></li> <li><p>University of California, San Diego University of Notre Dame University of Southern California University of Washington </p></li> <li><p>College of William and Mary New York University Pennsylvania State University - University Park University of California, Davis Purdue University - West Lafayette </p></li> <li><p>Indiana University - Bloomington University of California, Irvine University of Maryland - College Park University of Minnesota, Twin Cities </p></li> <li><p>Ohio State University - Columbus Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Tufts University University of Arizona University of California, Santa Barbara University of Iowa </p></li> <li><p>Brandeis University Case Western Reserve University Michigan State University University of Florida Texas A&M University - College Station Tulane University </p></li> <li><p>University of Colorado at Boulder University of Georgia University of Pittsburgh University of Rochester Virginia Tech </p></li> <li><p>Boston University Iowa State University Rutgers University - New Brunswick University of Kansas University of Missouri - Columbia </p></li> <li><p>Arizona State University SUNY - Stony Brook University University of California, Santa Cruz University of Connecticut University of Delaware University of Massachusetts Amherst University of Miami </p></li> <li><p>North Carolina State University University at Buffalo - SUNY University of California, Riverside University of Nebraska - Lincoln University of Tennessee University of Utah </p></li> <li><p>Florida State University University of Illinois at Chicago University of Kentucky University of South Carolina, Columbia Washington State University </p></li> <li><p>Colorado State University Louisiana State University - Baton Rouge SUNY - University at Albany University of New Mexico Yeshiva University </p></li> <li><p>Kansas State University University of Alabama - Birmingham </p></li> <li><p>University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center University of Hawaii at Manoa </p></li> <li><p>Montana State University - Bozeman Wayne State University </p></li> <li><p>Wright State University
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<p>Sorry to revive this from the dead, but which college of theirs is open enrollment? I’m guessing the St. Paul campus(CFANS?), but I may be mistaken. I’m starting at the U for Economics(College of Liberal Arts) and start this tues.</p>
<p>Also, when you are saying mega-campus liabilities, do you mean it is easy to get lost academically since you don’t get the attention from staff/faculty that you should get? I have heard the larger campuses you are treated as though you are a number, not as a person.</p>
<p>I would say that all the state flagship universities you mentioned are roughly equal.</p>
<p>Obviously, if you are not rich, even a brilliant kid might wind up at the flagship state university, and then, when the kids from the colleges you mentioned (Georgia, Maryland, etc) then apply to graduate school, with let’s say, a B+ average in the same major, I think they will be considered roughly equal. I don’t think that the Georgia kid or the Maryland kid will be considered “better” than the Minnesota kid. However, I would say Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Virginia, and UNC would be considered “better”.</p>
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<p>You’re mistaken. The University of Minnesota currently has no open enrollment colleges. It had a General College for about 70 years, but it closed around 2006 or 2007 in a money-saving move, but also in an effort by the administration to raise Minnesota’s academic standards and graduation rate. It was a controversial move, however. The General College was about 50% students of color, most of them from economically and academically disadvantaged backgrounds. Its supporters pointed to the many success stories of students who were given a chance by the General College and moved on to academic and professional success. The university administration pointed to high costs, low graduation rates, and dilution in quality of the student body. It’s a tough call. What should the mission of a public flagship be—especially an urban pubic flagship?</p>
<p>[MPR:</a> U of M and diversity linked in debate over General College](<a href=“http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/04/12_helmsm_students/]MPR:”>MPR: U of M and diversity linked in debate over General College)</p>
<p>The General College aside, Minnesota IS underrated. Its undergrad engineering and business schools are among the top 25 in the nation. It’s got outstanding faculties in econ, poli sci, psychology, and the biological sciences. Best of all, it’s cheap for OOS students, who pay $4K above in-state tuition. That makes total COA at Minnesota lower for a California resident than UC Berkeley or UCLA…</p>