I may be misinterpreting your comments…are you suggesting that Ivy parents only ratiionale for sending their kids to as you describe “prestige schools”, is to brag? Not taking anything away from UT (or any other school), but there is an argument to be made that elite schools offer some unique opportunities and advantages to their students. We can agree to disagree but don’t disparage the decision to go to a super elite as simply one of parental vanity. That sort of generalisation isn’t fair to the kid or the parent." ~Nocreativity1
@Nocreativity1 There’s no disagreement at all, because you are misinterpreting my comments. I didn’t even remotely say or suggest that vanity is the only reason that a parent (or a student for that matter) would aspire to an elite school. I’m addressing (in context of this thread) two statements by @Riversider:
- “After all the hard work your kid did at school and you did at earning/saving to be in a better position to support them, saying no to their dream colleges and forcing them to go to free lower tier colleges hurts,” and 2) “It’s demoralising to spend precious hours of their teen years hoping to attend some top school then going to local state school while watching your friends happily hoping towards top schools.”
I’m saying that this is a thread about UT admissions for the undergrad class of 2023. I’m saying that UT will offer any student a great education, and afford them many opportunities. I’m saying that fit (including academic and financial) matters. I’m saying that many students work hard, and achieve high, some higher than others. Still, no student, in context of college admissions, should adopt the idea that their efforts entitle them to a place at an expensive private elite school that they cannot afford (and for which need based aid won’t close the financial gap for them). Nobody is entitled to a spot at a private university. If the student is unable to attend “Prestigious U” (prestige being determined by the student and parent), all is not lost. Here is exactly what I said, in its entirety:
“It’s not a travesty, and futures aren’t lost or jeopardized, if a great student gets a great education at UT, instead of private “Prestige University”. Parents aren’t saying “no to their kids’ dreams” by saying, “We can’t afford that price point”. Well, not unless the ‘dream’ was to be able to, at some point in the future, brag about attending an ivy on a internet forum to anonymous people who by and large don’t really care, as the pinnacle of success.” ~nomatter
What that means is that, outside of the feelings of disappointment that are a normal part of high stakes college admissions, it is not a travesty, dreams will not go unfulfilled, and high achieving students will still get what they need and thrive if their parents can’t or won’t afford tuition at “Prestige U”. IF the goal was to get a great education (an in the context of this specific thread), then UT, as the presumable match or safety of a student who applied and was accepted, will offer a high performing student opportunities to blossom. IF the goal was only to be able to put a notch on a post, “I went to an elite private university” as opposed to getting a great education, then UT cannot and will not scratch that itch. Success, for the student, won’t be determined by name brand, unless (for the student) name brand was the only benchmark.