University of Virginia Class of 2021 EA Discussion Thread


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Michigan definitely accepts a lot of students EA. But my daughter was deferred (December 2014) and then got direct admit to Ross…just kind of strange that her application was strong enough for direct admit to Ross yet she was deferred EA. The shame is that she might have actually considered Ross had she known earlier. She accepted an offer from another top business program and is very happy so it all worked out well. But there were many strong rumors her year that Michigan had to defer more than they wanted to just because they couldn’t get through the apps. In fairness to them, they were probably trying to make sure everyone had a thorough review.

@collegemomjam Michigan is known to defer many very qualified students EA (especially if you are out of state). This is rumored to be because they want to increase their yield rate and do so by deferring people who they think may be using Michigan as a safety school. I have no proof of this, but the pattern definitely seems to be there.

@enginero I keep hearing this too, but not sure it makes much sense. If the yield is based on how many offers of admission and then acceptances - how does deferring change the yield? Let’s say that student A applies EA and it is a safety. If they are deferred in the EA round, and then eventually get accepted in February or March (which I hear that many of the deferreds get accepted starting in early February), how does this change their yield. It still could be student A’s safety and they may or may not choose it May 1. Even, if it is the safety, they may not hear back from their other choices until mid March/end of March at which time if one was assuming that they would withdraw their application from Michigan…that doesn’t really make much sense. I understand that Michigan would rather offer EA to the many students that they believe will accept—maybe instate, or OOS with mid of the road application, but then why do they end up accepting many of the students that get deferred in EA? Again, when you get your offer (EA, Regular) does not matter for purposes of yield. It is offers made and offers accepted. If I have missed something, please let me know. Thank you!

@hcmom65 I agree, that is why the rumors never made that much sense to me, accept for the fact that almost everyone in my grade that I know got deferred, even some of the smartest students (I am out of state, if that makes a difference). The only two reasons I have heard were the rumor about yield (which perhaps they are trying to improve EA yield if that is even a thing?) and the fact that they have so many applicants they defer some because they need more time.

@enginero exactly what I have heard. The yield doesn’t make sense, but the other rumor does. With over 32,000 EA apps, it might make sense as to why more are deferred. In any event, Michigan is still a wonderful school. But, my heart will always be with UVA. I loved all my years studying there. A memory I will cherish forever.

@hcmom65 I think by deferring students they can pull off a higher yield. A lot of students who apply early decision to other schools also apply EA to safeties. If Michigan lets one of these kids in who also gets in ED somewhere else, that lowers their yield because the student must choose the other school. If they instead defer those same students and the student gets in ED somewhere else, they would then be required to withdraw their application and would not be admitted to Michigan at all. Thus, not affecting the school’s yield.

@4four4 is correct. While ED students are required to withdraw their applications elsewhere, the reality is that some delay notifying schools between the December 8-9-10-11 ED date and the December 21 Mich EA date to see if they got in. Even those kids, who in my view are doing the wrong thing, usually withdraw their other applications by January.

Without knowing the details, the knee-jerk reaction from an admission officer is that this student had an ambitious senior program and the school wanted to make sure MYs were strong before moving forward. :slight_smile:

I suppose that’s a potential theory…but she went into it with straight A’s and a rank of 10 out of 400 and after MY’s her rank went up to 7th and she kept her straight A’s. Also, a girl also in the top ten with her was admitted EA and got direct admit to Ross…I think they both had the same ACT score. But my daughter had the stronger App by far when you incorporated EC’s and awards (4 year all county athlete, ran a scholarship fund at her gym, etc). But the other girl had legacy, so that may have helped. And the other girl is there now and very happy also. No complaints really because my daughter did get in and got her direct admit to Ross…but she got in to Ross on 4/17 and it was too late at that point. She had made up her mind, assuming that the initial deferral was a sign she wouldn’t get Ross.

I guess the moral of the story is, don’t read too much into the deferral from Michigan? If you have the stats, you might still have a good shot? Not sure but we were confused.

OOS by the way.

@collegemomjam very true. My brother is a soph at UM now and he got deferred and he said most of the people he knows got deferred. I just got in early though!

I thought this was a UVa thread??

You’re right…it is a UVA thread and I think the point made is that in the end it is probably best the UVA waits until late Jan to release decisions!!

Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but do they release decisions all in the same day?

I believe that is what UVA does.

Although this is the UVA thread, here’s the explanation on UM EA defers.

UM ended up over-enrolled for several years in a row after they adopted the Common App.

So beginning with the 14-15 cycle, UM said publicly that it started to defer a larger portion of its EA apps in order to control enrollment. They also put more kids on the wait list for the same reason.

Not surprisingly, yield for EA accept offers (UM wants you now!!) is a lot higher than it is for EA defers (UM may or may not want you; don’t call us we’ll call you) that turn into RD accept offers after three more months of waiting. A lot of EA defers move on to other schools in the interim.

I messed up… Financial aid deadline for EA applicants: January 1.
I didn’t do the CSS profile for UVA, just the FAFSA, and it says both are required.
No I cry and give up because even on the chance of miraculously being accepted, I can’t afford it without financial aid.

^I am looking online and it says that there’s a deadline for March 1 as well, so can I still apply?
The email the EA applicants got said Jan 1 was priority deadline.
Sorry for my freaking out :slight_smile:

Is anyone sending any additional information besides grades to provide any new information that might boost admissions chances? I can’t find a clear way to do this like many of the other applicant portals for other colleges.

My daughter wanted to send her resume and found on their website that they don’t want it. She called admissions and got the same answer. With that said, I think there is a general mailbox email that you can send updates to, but I would call admissions and first ask if what you want to send is the type of info they want. My daughter got the impression they really don’t want extra documentation. Probably depends on what you are sending.