<p>hmm… I’d rather be at UVA than at UCLA anyday. The historic architecture is amazing… =)Charlottesville is just a great little city. </p>
<p>UCLA might be more popular to West Coast students…especially considering Cali is one of the most populated states in the Country (thus the many applications sent to that school…)</p>
<p>I’m applying to both UVA and UCLA, and I have to say that because of California’s budget problems I’m not sure that I’d pick UCLA over UVA.</p>
<p>If you are OOS, you should not even apply to the UCs. They just don’t offer a good value, IMO.</p>
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I believe that would be William & Mary.</p>
<p>UVa has had worse state funding problems for years.</p>
<p>UVA isn’t good for the sciences? I didn’t realize that.</p>
<p>I am OOS but UVA is one of my top choices, and I want to be a biology major. I didn’t look too much into the quality of it’s bio program, but besides academics, it’s the perfect school for me.</p>
<p>I am a top student and I want to go to a top grad school. Does UVA have a good bio program?</p>
<p>UVA has never had to rely much on state funding, because of its strong alumni contributions…</p>
<p>As good of a school as UVA is, the fact is that its reputation is due more to undergrad selectivity than to quality of its academic programs. In terms of overall faculty quality and academic breadth and depth, not only are Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA stronger than UVA, but so are Wisconsin, Texas, and Illinois. UVA is most definitely an excellent school, but its programs are not as uniformly strong across the board as these schools.</p>
<p>I wonder why wouldn’t UCLA make a business school? It’s a popular program nowadays and UCLA is in L.A.! the center of commerce and trade in the whole West Coast!!!</p>
<p>Personally i would rather go to UVA for a number of reasons (I’m a business major, conservative politically, like historic architecture, etc) but I am going to have to say that overall UCLA is the better school when you take into account the whole scope of things. As for being the best state school for overall undergrad experience, it’s good, but as someone else said, not even the best in its own state.</p>
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The supposed superiority of W&M at the undergraduate level is vastly overstated. The simple truth is that UVA trounces W&M in virtually every measurable aspect – even per capita. To give you just one example, UVA has produced over 45 Rhodes scholars; W&M has produced 6. Both, of course, are exceedingly fine universities.</p>
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So are UW, UCSD, Minnesota, and UNC Chapel Hill.</p>
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[UCLA</a> Anderson School of Management](<a href=“http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/]UCLA”>http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/)</p>
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<p>And USC does??? lol</p>
<p>Anderson does not offer undergrad, IBClass. I was talking about undergrad business school if Anderson can’t offer it for UCLA.</p>
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<p>I don’t know about that. Its business school, law shool, and med school do a lot for its reputation, I think. Not to mention its alums. Can’t chalk it all up to just selectivity.</p>
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Well, then clarify. You asked why UCLA doesn’t have a business school, which it does. ;)</p>
<p>As for why it doesn’t offer undergraduate business, it really has no need to. BizEcon serves as the surrogate business major, and those students get pretty much exactly the same jobs they would as business majors. </p>
<p>Undergraduate business is actually quite rare among top universities; it’s mostly the publics that offer it, and if UCLA doesn’t wish to join them, it’s not hurting anyone by failing to do so.</p>
<p>But a name can sometimes turn the applicants off. it’s either you offer econ or business.</p>
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W&M consistently has better incoming SAT scores, higher acceptance rates to law and med schools, higher rates of undergraduate research participation, better rankings for “undergraduate teaching,” highly rated professors, higher rates of study abroad participation, highly rated library, higher ‘student happiness’ rankings, and I’m sure the list goes on. I wouldn’t say its a huge difference, and I don’t care to argue it beyond this nor do I think these are perfect metrics. Anyway, I do want to go to UVA’s law school. And yes I agree, both UVA and W&M are excellent schools and top the lists for ‘Best Value’ for undergraduate education.</p>
<p>I’m kind of surprised by all of the UVA bashing on this thread. I guess as a W&M student it is obvious that I favor more personal contact with faculty and an engaged and active community, and from what I’ve seen UVA does this very well. I couldn’t imagine a school of 40,000 inspiring and training diverse leaders better than a school less than half that size, holding everything else constant. What are the metrics that we should use for deciding on an optimal university?</p>