The above may be true. I am going to chance it though. 
Who is being unreasonable here?
The guy who says slavery is good. Slaves aren’t people.
Or the person who responds, “You are a racist.”?
The line in Cool Hand Luke is sooo good.
This goes both ways:
And there are people who call what others say/do “racist” when what was said or done was not racist. And the people laying the racist charge complain when others simply ignore their charge and continue on saying and doing what they were. No one should change what they are saying/doing based on a false charge.
Most “student” outrage is sponsored and directed by faculty. IMHO. Personal experience. If faculty doesn’t think that it may get some perks (promotion, tenure, etc.) - 5they do not bother to organizer students to make protests. Thus, “student” protests are not likely to happen.
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No. They lead in the opposite direction.
@awcntdb so I guess you are okay with BLM making their point on any campus in any manner they see fit as long as they are not violent
I don’t believe in the " weak kneed responses to those protests". I believe that admins and faculty encouraged protests and used students as a proxy in they quest for promotions / tenure / money / power / etc.
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It is very easy to reconcile. Lots of "student’ protests are sponsored by internal power struggles of faculty at the universities. IMHO.
@californiaaa, as a faculty member, I’m going to call shenanigans on your recent posts about faculty somehow secretly pulling the strings of student protests. That rings a bit…odd.
@californiaa are you saying that the neo Nazis and the alt right should be allowed on every college campus to go wherever they want and spew their hate and all the students should not have a safe place to escape from it. I think I am starting to get a little confused
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Seriously? I mean … really? All student protestors that I’ve seen are working with blessings of their faculty sponsors.
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Look at the list of “student’s” demands: hiring faculty, promotions for faculty, funding for faculty, hiring / firing of faculty. These are all “adult” demands.
Why would UChi attack its professors’ academic freedom to issue content (“trigger”) warnings? There are no colleges in the US that mandate content warnings, so UChi’s no content warnings policy is an abridgment of freedom rather than a defense of it.
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Where did I say it? collegedad13, you have to be a bit more careful in your liberal views. My ancestors were slaughtered during the Hitler time. Please have respect to the 50 million people, who died during the Holocaust/WW2. Don’t use them as an excuse to demand “culturally-sensitive” sushi at campus cafeteria.
Do you really equal the suffering of the Holocaust and the murders of the WW2 to “culturally inappropriate yoga classes” ??? ! Wow! That is liberal.
Yes, of course. Actually, BLM has legitimacy.
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I don’t believe in the " weak kneed responses to those protests". I believe that admins and faculty encouraged protests and used students as a proxy in they quest for promotions / tenure / money / power / etc. >
Let’s not forget that Dartmouth BLM, swarming the library, was THANKED by the Dartmouth Vice-Provost for student affairs. "Vice provost for student affairs Inge-Lise Ameer “apologized to students who engaged in the protest (BLM students) for the negative responses and media coverage that they have received.”
Dartmouth vice provost encouraged and enabled the library protest. Thanked protesters. Protected them. Even after the negative publicity.
@californiaaa since I practice Judaism I do have a lot of respect for the people slaughtered during WW2. I am just trying to figure out what you are saying. Is it not okay to protest for certain things like culturally sensitive sushi and yoga classes
I am afraid that adults (like Dartmouth Vice-Provost for Student Affairs, Inge-Lise Ameer) agitate and put one group of students against the other, based on their race / ethnic origin. My family is multiracial. It is a real, personal concern for me.
What am most interested in is whether any other highly ranked college will follow Chicago’s lead.
I suspect that the Ivies will not. Mainly because they disagree with Chicago, but even if any Ivy leaders think “wish we had done that first”, they might not want to follow Chicago. Only possibilities I see there are Dartmouth and perhaps Cornell, which I suspect have few overlaps with Chicago.
For a liberal arts college, following Chicago would clearly set them apart from most, but I am not aware of highly ranked liberal arts colleges with enough of a libertarian culture needed for this approach to take hold. If it can take hold, it would a marketer’s dream situation.
A place like MIT or Carnegie Mellon could probably pull this off, but would have to present it their own way.