unrealistic expectations after lots of hard work

<p>Columbia…the fact that there might be more demand for primary care appointments does not by itself create more seats in medical schools.</p>

<p>The AMA asked all Med schools to increase their enrollment to meet the pending shortage a number of years ago. To this date, only a handful have complied.</p>

<p>There are many who apply who have less than 3.60 GPA and get accepted.</p>

<p>Much is taken into consideration. For example how rigorous are the courses taken? Can you compare a school where it is easy to get A with a school where it is much harder to get A? The expectation is that those schools that are harder will have students who do much better on the MCAT.</p>

<p>I was led to believe it is similar to the undergraduate process. The admission committees consider the strength of the school</p>

<p>My daughter goes to very tough school where statistics are kept on those who apply to medical school. It was said that 80% of student with at least B+ overall GPA and slightly better science GPA will be accepted into some medical school. Those sound like very goods odds to me.</p>

<p>There have been several new medical schools opening in the past 5 years. One of these is Hofstra University Medical School. It had its 1st class in 2011 with 40 students.</p>

<p>There was a proposed University of California Medical School at Riverdale that was to start but having problems.</p>

<p>I think that a new school started in Chicago recently.</p>

<p>These new schools should allow for additional students to become doctors.</p>

<p>That should be UC Riverside, last I heard the med school was still moving ahead, but who knows with the budgets the way they are!</p>

<p>Hofstra University Medical School (in Long Island), a new school started in Chicago, and UC Riverside. What is common among these 3 med schools? Is it a coincident that all these 3 schools are in a blue state? Or is it just because the population in these states is growing and therefore require more doctors to serve the patients in these states?</p>

<p>When will the number of residency seats be increased? Without more residency seats, the number of doctors can not be increased. (It is easier to import medical school graduates from foreign med schools – we have been doing this in the past several decades and we are still doing it now. It is not so easy to import those who have completed the residency training elsewhere. But anything may be acceptable when the budget is tight, or when it is more “cost effective” to do so like the large corporations have been doing for recruiting their workforce for several decades.) But Medicare which funds these programs seems to be in life support itself when there are all the talks about the urgency of budget cuts recently. Patient care can be delayed (not that many patients will die just because of a few months or years of delay), but not fiscal cliff.</p>

<p>UC Riverside Medical School will open this year, in spite of the state. I think the funding they needed came from private sources. They will have 50 students, hoping to serve the needs of the so-called Inland Empire (which is a misnomer). It is actually one of the areas hardest hit by the recession (the town of San Bernardino, for example, just filed for bankruptcy).</p>

<p>Here’s my question. How is it that most of the UG colleges are claiming near 100% of their pre-med students are accepted into medical school, at the same time that the medical schools are claiming 10% or less are being accepted??</p>

<p>There are lies. Damned lies. And then statistics. :wink: I can make numbers dance to any tune I want. And I’m just a lawyer. You oughta see what banker or a pol can do. </p>

<p>As to the UG’s marketing arm? They obfuscate, and if that’s not enough , then they prevaricate. </p>

<p>They screen. A lot. Then they don’t count everybody. Only “supported” applicants. They add DO, DVM, DPM, etc. They add foreign.</p>

<p>also, they report that nearly 100% of their students get accepted SOMEWHERE, the overall acceptance rate for all medical schools combined is in the mid 40s, so it’s not quite as disparate as 90+ and <10</p>