<p>Apparently universities will be notified in August of the release date of the new NRC report and data. So it definitely won't be out before the summer is over. fyi, if anyone still cares at this point!</p>
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<p>^NRC rankings are a joke like any other rankings.</p>
<p>That may be true, but compared to all the others out there, they at least have the most rigorous methodology, statistical analysis, and academic backing. They’re not designed to sell magazines by giving the prestige-hungry general public what they expect to see, like the USNWR rankings. Of course you could argue the NRC report somewhat does the same thing from an academic perspective, but at least the new report is supposed to minimize subjective bias.</p>
<p>Also, while institutions may change a lot in the 10-15 years between rankings, there is some validity in conducting more rigorous reviews on a less than annual basis. No institutions significantly change one year to the next, unless the metodology is also significantly changed (see the London Times rankings from the last 5 years).</p>
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Based on the expert opinion of pierre0913?</p>
<p>I agree that the NRC rankings don’t have the same commercialization as USNWR. Private industry rankings probably wouldn’t run this late.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, while rankings may not be the final word on how good a university is, employers are interested in how schools measure up to each other in quantifiable terms, and they usually go to ranking lists such as USNWR or NRC to evaluate the academic rigor of a prospective employee’s school.</p>
<p>^well the question is, how familiar are employees with the NRC rankings? My dad works for Harvard/Smithsonian and I’ll bet you 1 million dollars that he knows nothing about the NRC rankings. When looking at co-op students to hire, he’ll take a look at the US News rankings if he’s not familiar with the schools where they are getting applications from. But most of his hirings are from Northeastern, because he’s had good co-op experiences with them.</p>
<p>Faculty and admins all over the country will commit the lists to memory and feature a high ranking on their website just as they do with the last set. Grant-making agencies take them seriously too which impacts research funding which will impact long-run academic prestige. Last time they came out the NYT had several full pages with all the rankings. US News gets no such attention.</p>
<p>barrons is correct. USNWR rankings are a joke compared to the NRC. These rankings are what separate the big boys from the also rans and what truly show what a world class university is all about.</p>
<p>Just waiting for the swarm of crazed dookies to come in here and tell us that Dook will be ranked #1 in those rankings because of their top basketball program.</p>
<p>You all need to get jobs instead of worrying about how Princeton and UMich will outdo Duke… </p>
<p>Sorry for the ad hominem but this is getting pathetic. The only reason you support the NRC is because they are GRADUATE RANKINGS that your school does well in. Too bad undergrads aren’t affected by thi, huh?</p>
<p>ha!..</p>
<p>that didn’t take long</p>
<p>the crazed out dookies finally showed up</p>
<p>welcome eastsalot</p>
<p>tell us again how all those rankings, any rankings, show that Duke is better than Princeton for undergraduate…since that is what you are claiming here isn’t it?</p>
<p>The NRC rankings were supposed to come out in 2008… then 2009… then 2010. Now it would appear that they won’t be out until 2011. I would not hold my breath!</p>
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<p>Show me once where I explicitly stated that.</p>
<p>and one of the crazed dookies, eatsalot, comes out of his hole again…</p>
<p>eatsalot’s post:</p>
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<p>you see, no one at Princeton has to worry about outdoing dook, because there simply is no comparison. Not even close. So calm down there, and just worry about whether dook is going to win another basketball championship - after all, isn’t that what dook is best known for, its great basketball program?</p>
<p>^^</p>
<p>Grudge, much? We can tell someone went to Carolina …</p>
<p>This shifted focus amazingly quickly.</p>
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<p>Wow…that really hurt! As a Duke alum, I really have to disagree with this completely, but I have a feeling you, JohnAdams12, also know this is untrue, and you’re just trying to provoke eatsalot?</p>
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<p>What? Who are these “crazed out dookies” on CC you speak of? I’m pretty sure you made that up. eatsalot only said “You all need to get jobs instead of worrying about how Princeton and UMich will outdo Duke…” in response to your absurd statement, not because he is a “crazed out dookie”. Duke is one the top schools in the country, and not because of their top basketball program. So chill.</p>
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False dilemma my friend 
He could well be a Princeton alma mater. Duke is a great college, but not on the caliber of HYP.</p>
<p>^Well, since MIT is part of the great HYPSM acronym, I get to have a say. I can hands down say that I was very satisfied with my Duke experience.
I’m not exactly sure, but the last time I checked, HYP aren’t the only prestigious universities in America :rolleyes:. I frankly don’t think they deserve to be glorified as such (on the undergraduate level, of course). I remember in my old undergraduate days, I turned down Yale for Duke (no scholarships of the sort). Sometimes the “best” schools aren’t the best fit. And I don’t regret turning down Yale at all…</p>
<p>But I can say for sure, the intellectual environment at Duke was as good as the intellectual experience I’ve had so far at MIT. And why shouldn’t it be? Both Duke and MIT do very well and various rankings, reputation, etc. I’ve found both my experiences very enjoyable. To say MIT is better than Duke is terrible. First off, that’s very untrue. Second, that would insinuate that MIT students are superior to Duke’s and that’s utterly terrible. I prefer to think once a university has hit a certain level of achievement and reputation, they’re all in the same level.<br>
CollegeConfidential exists to help students find a university that fits, not argue college vs college.
Having college vs college attacks make me nervous…</p>