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Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hey guys</p>

<p>I plan on doing civil engineering.</p>

<p>Now my question is: when admitting students for ed (or rd for that matter) does Princeton separate the applications for engineering into each subfield? For example if they usually receive a lot fo electrical and mechanical applications, does someone majoring in Civil have a better chance of getting in than someone equally qualified for electrical? (that was just an example). I know UC Berkeley follows this procedure, does Princeton as well? Also what are the most popular engineering majors as well as least popular? (REplace Pricneton also with every other college listed at the bottom)</p>

<p>I go to a competitive private high school in New Jersey. Widowed parent, income around 40k ish, first generation college student. How is financial aid?</p>

<p>I guess I'll just list some stuff and you can let me know if you need anything else to tell me my chances.</p>

<p>white male (double damn)</p>

<p>SAT I: 2020 690 CR, 630 Math, 700 Writing (retaking Nov)
SAT II: Haven't taken any yet but plan on doing Both math 1 (is this acceptable), chemistry, and either lit or us history (does it matter) Taking these in October
Also taking ACT in October</p>

<p>How come whenever someone with a high sat score posts people say the sat score means nothing but when someone with around mine posts here CC members immediately jump and say no way you'll get in, you have to have a 2300+ to stand a chance? How can my sat scores immediately disqualify me for admission when it's a holistic process? Is this actually the mentality of Princeton or is it just CC members place way too much of an emphasis on sat scores, and think that's the only thing that matters? (this paragrapgh was in advance to sat comments I know I'll get)</p>

<p>GPA: 3.8 something UW I did incredibly poor freshmen year and had to work instensely hard to get my grades up. I don't know if they'll see that but the self-improvement was immense. Princeton doesn't use freshmen year in the gpa doe they? If not, it will be probably somewhere around 3.97+ UW</p>

<p>Rank: 10 out of 240 ish</p>

<p>Junior year coursework: Honors English, Honors Chem, Honors Alg2/Trig, Ap US History, Honors Spanish 3, Religion (required)</p>

<p>four quarter grades and then year grade</p>

<p>Honors English- 97 97 99 98 98
Alg2 Trig Honors 95 94 96 95 95
AP USH- 99 99 99 99 99
Chemistry Honors 99 99 98 99 98
Spanish 3 Honors 96 97 97 96 95
Religion- 99 99 99 99 99</p>

<p>Senior year: AP Eng, Honors Physics, Ap Art History, Ap US History, Honors Precalc</p>

<p>My school only offers ap classes in English, Art History, US History, and Calc BC, so I'm taking all I am qualified for. I tried starting a US Gov AP and Euro Hist AP but the head of the department turned me down.</p>

<p>Taken 2 courses at a local community college, intro to philosophy (freshmen year- A-), sociology (sophomore year A).</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:</p>

<p>Academic Team- Captain</p>

<p>Robotics Team-builder and participant when we won the 2005 and 2006 state championships for FIRST (possible hook? Idk..)</p>

<p>New Jersey Regional Science Fair-participant</p>

<p>Spanish Honor Society- helped fundraise and tutored students</p>

<p>Model United Nations</p>

<p>NJ American Legion Boys State representative</p>

<p>Intermural Basketball League assistant coach/player</p>

<p>Chess team</p>

<p>Intermural Ultimate Frisbee League- Co-Founder, captain of a team, and player</p>

<p>American Cancer Society Relay for Life-helped organize and set up event, three years</p>

<p>Worked at Afterhours Formalwear</p>

<p>Awards:</p>

<p>· The Elmira College Key Award, 2006
· Excellence in Spanish 2 CP, 2004-2005
· Excellence in English 2 CP, 2004-2005
· Honorable Mention in Eastern Civilization CP, 2004-2005
· Excellence in English 3 Honors, 2005-2006
· Excellence in United History 1 Advanced Placement, 2005-2006
· Honorable Mention in Spanish 3 Honors, 2005-2006
· New Jersey Regional Science Fair Rutgers Student Award, 2005
· National Spanish Examination Certificate of Achievement and Merit¸ 2004-2005 and 2005-2006</p>

<p>BTW I might be able to take ap chemistry next year....there should be enough kids if I want to do it...only thing...my schedule will be absolute hell:</p>

<p>honors physics
ap chemistry
honors precalc
ap english 4
ap art history
ap us history
religion (required)</p>

<p>Think I should try to take ap chem? Would it help my chances at all??</p>

<p>Schools I like:</p>

<p>Princeton ED
Cornell ED (Don't give me the speech about only apply ed if its the ONE you want, I can like both of these schools equally and because of that would like to apply ED to whichever I have a better chance)</p>

<p>UC Berkeley
Duke
Northwestern
Rice
Cooper Union
Northeastern
RPI
Penn State
Rutgers</p>

<p>Thanks guys for the chances.</p>

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<p>Troteck:</p>

<p>UCB: Reach (out of state, Engineering)</p>

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<p>Worchester Polytechnic and U of Rochester give out FIRST scholarships. Definitely check this out. Your list is all right in general, but since you need financial aid and are eligible to get it, why waste time on Berkeley? They won't give an out of state person much if anything. Princeton is a huge reach of course. Cornell more likely. Duke huge reach. But, you have enough good bets there for admission plus aid- RPI, Rutgers, Northeastern, Cooper, Northwestern. I'm not sure about Penn State- would they give aid to an out-of-state person? You may be better off to replace them with a private school like Lehigh. How about Columbia SEAS (also called Fu School of Engineering). It's easier to get into than Columbia College, the Ivy league branch.</p>

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<p>Read the post on the parent's board about family learning an admissions lesson to understand why and how SATs count. They can't get you in to a top school but they can certainly keep you out. Colleges want to maintain high SAT averages. They already have to make exceptions for athletes, URMs, legacies and the very wealthy. Unhooked candidates need to have above average scores. You do have an advantage become low income, but you still need to raise the SAT scores, especially math as a proposed engineering major. Also, math1 is not acceptable for an engineering major. Give Cornell a shot ED, Princeton is an unrealistic reach.</p>

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<p>Do they even administer SAT IIs in October? Dude, you'd better check to MAKE SURE you are going for the right date (though I might be wrong).</p>

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<p>I think a 630 Math SAT and a MathI Sat II would put you out of consideration at the more competitive Engineering programs. You are a stronger candidate most places applying in a different area.
If it's your passion you should of course go for it! But be prepared to go to a non-elite school.</p>

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<p>Staright from College Board site:</p>

<p>October 14, 2006 SAT & Subject Tests Sep. 12, 2006</p>