upenn chances for athlete/debater

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>upenn is the school i plan on applying early to.</p>

<p>I attend the second most competitive public school in Washington state.</p>

<p>gpa- 3.55uw 3.9 w
(6 ap's and 4 honors classes so weighted is close to a 3.9)
sat 2110 (760 v 680m 670w)
im also taking the september act and will likely send in that score.</p>

<p>Academics: due to my schools lack of ap and honors class selection i have taken 2 independent honors classes and 3 inde ap classes)</p>

<p>Student Government:
-7th and 8th Grade "class senator" (one of only 4 in my grade)
-9th grade vp
-9th grade room representative
-10th grade pres
-11th grade pres
-12th grade pres</p>

<p>Athletics:
Baseball: (i will be filling out recruiting forms)
-member of Penninsula Baseball Academy since age 13 (18U all kitsap team)
-member of Post 68 Bremerton Legion Baseball Club since age 15 (18U all kitsap team)
-member of numerous local all star teams.
-awarded 1st team honors at multiple baseball clinics (both pitching and infield)
- .470 HS batting average (i believe that leads the metro division)</p>

<p>Tennis: (i will also try to get recruited)
- number 5 for my highschool's tennis team
- perfect 9-0 regular season (dropping only 2 sets all season)
- finished 3rd in the "metro division" </p>

<p>Boxing:
-In 13 adjudicated amateur fights i have amassed a perfect 13-0 record in the bantamweight division</p>

<p>Ping Pong:
-Undefeated since July 2004 (240+ consecutive win streak)
-3x school champion
-current city champion </p>

<p>Debate: (multiple schools have approached me about debating for their program some of the schools have included financial packages)
-washington state co-champion of LD debate.
-two time national qualifyer (finishing 27th Junior Year)
-only junior from washington state to qualify to "the tournament of champions".
-finished 5th out of juniors nationwide at the toc.
-Invited to 8 Round Robin Tournaments in 5 states
-3 time team captain
-during my tenure the team has grown from 7 members to 40 members.
-Put in about 300 hours teaching teammates how to debate.
-received "top speaker" awards at numerous tournaments
-only debater to clear at all three "washington bid tournaments"
-only debater from my school to qualify to TOC or nationals in debate.
-2nd at state in extemporaneous speaking (2006) 2nd (2005)
-3rd in impromptu speaking. (2006) 4th (2005)
-only junior in recent memory to win the University of Puget Sound's Charles Battin award for outstanding speaker.
-first junior to with the 3A state title since 2001.
-attendee at Victory Briefs @ UCLA 2005 (varsity) 2006 (top lab)
-one of only 6 debaters (out of 300) to participate in camp-wide demo debate.
-one of only 18 debaters selected to attend the Team USA qualifier
-will hear back shortly regarding my status
- National Forensic League All American </p>

<p>Employment:
-Started "&*&^% Contracting" after my Freshman Year to pay for all my debate expenditures
-Completed over 20 contracts
-Employed 11 people within the company
-Earned nearly $8,000 over 3 summers.</p>

<p>thanks for any comments. I want to major in political science and minor in political economy.</p>

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<p>fair chance</p>

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<p>Penn: no chance.</p>

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<p>i think it comes down to whether or not you get flagged for recruitment; if you do then you have a solid chance. If not, then you probably have an OK shot but I really don't know what the track record for people with your stats are at Penn admissions (ie I know that Cornell will occasionally accept someone with surprisingly low stats).</p>

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<p>The number one ranked debater in the country (not sure which type) went to my HS. He had stellar ECs and scores, but was rejected from Yale. He's still going to Princeton. </p>

<p>Also, (another student from my HS) the number one tennis player on our state champion team, and individual state champion, was accepted to UPenn for a tennis scholarship. He is very good, and nationally ranked. I should mention he had legacy as well. It wouldn't be beyond his parents to have donated a substantial amount of money.</p>

<p>Just some anecdotes.</p>

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<p>what school are you from (to above poster)?
did you by any chance go to CPS?</p>

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<p>No, I went to a public HS in NJ.</p>

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<p>If you get recruited for baseball, tennis, or debate, you'll have a pretty good chance...And if I were you, I'd definitely try to get recruited for debate, if Penn has a debate team that recruits. The national and state-wide awards and rankings in debate will definitely exert a good deal of pull with admissions if the debate team coach is also putting in a good word.</p>

<p>On the other hand, if you don't get recruited, even with your superlative record in debate, you're chances of getting into Penn based on your academics and test scores are well below average - probably in the 5% range. Generally, the kids who are accepted at Penn are in the top 5% of their classes, have combined SATs exceeding 2250, and also have ECs nearly as good as yours, and many have ECs that are better. It's a very competitive school.</p>

<p>By the way, although Penn (and all Ivies) recruit for sports and various other activities, they do not offer sports scholarships. If you get recruited to play baseball at Penn, and you're accepted, the reward is not money, but the opportunity to go to an Ivy League school.</p>

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<p>you're an amazing candidate...except for that GPA. Unless you get straight As senior year, expect a defer->reject.</p>

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<p>thanks for the imput, how about schools like;</p>

<p>gwu, uchi, vanderbilt, emory, usc, bc, west point, naval academy.</p>

<p>kthnx</p>

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<p>penn: improve ur sat to 2250+ and u're in.
try cornell.
also take SAT IIs</p>

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<p>Don't trash the GPA unless his class standing is equally "merely" above-average...a 3.55 and top 10% is better than a 3.7 and top 15-20%.</p>

<p>However, if he is a master debator--then he has a very good chance anyways.</p>

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<p>i will likely send in act scores with the sat 2's (im taking in sept/oct respectively)</p>