<p>I want to major in economics, but I'm not sure where I want to apply ED for next year. I would be very happy going to any one of these schools, but if I had to choose I would probably lean towards UPenn. However, I think my chances might be just a little better at Cornell or Duke. I would regret it soooo much if I went ED for Penn and got deferred/rejected, and had an even tougher time during RD for the other two schools.</p>
<p>Are UPenn ED's mostly overshadowed by the legacies? I know Cornell and Duke stress the fact that showing interest by applying ED is a plus, but Penn stresses how it gives special attention to legacies during ED, which I am not.</p>
<p>Does anybody actually have the ED stats for just CAS/Trinity, just so I can get a ball park idea of the difference between the three. What do you guys suggest? Would I be better off taking a slightly safer route by applying to Cornell or Duke? Is the difference between ED and RD at Penn as huge as it is at Columbia (roughly 7% RD to 21% ED at the college)?</p>
<p>And one last thing; I'm not sure if this has been answered before, but do colleges consider your major when deciding to accept you or not? For example, wouldn't it be harder to get into a super popular major like economics as opposed to a music or something, or would they look at all CAS students the same? Thanks for the help.</p>
<p>None of this matters. Which school do you like better. Adcoms HATE it when u use ED as an admissions strategy. You are breaking from the spirit of ED (this coming from a Penn ED applicant).</p>
<p>It seems you are only concerned with prestige, in which case you do not belong in any of the three schools listed. Major may or may not matter, it depends upon how the adcom feels on a particular day, they will not settle for an inferior applicant just to fill a major. It is still early, explore campuses. Perhaps the school that fits you best is not Duke, Cornell, or Penn.</p>
<p>^^ No need to sound so self-imporant and presumptuous. I'm pretty sure the whole point of ED is to show colleges that you are very interested in attending, and I have already stated that I would be happy going to any of the three. Besides, don't tell me that the majority of people who apply ED aren't thinking about the fact that it is slightly easier to get in early.</p>
<p>Penn is very legacy-based, more so than Duke or Columbia (for early decision). So if you're not a legacy, very slim chance you'll get in. For Penn, your major doesn't matter but which school you applied to (ex. Wharton vs A&S). Same for Cornell and Duke.<br>
If you believe that your stats make you a match for Penn, I'd go for Cornell or Duke. If you believe your stats are above Penn, I'd go for Penn. Admissions have been getting ridiculous ever since last year. </p>
<p>Kclee12, the whole point of ED is to get at advantage in admissions by applying early. There's no such thing as "spirit of ED". And prestige is one of the biggest factor in choosing colleges for most students--if you don't believe that, you need to get real.</p>
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^^ No need to sound so self-imporant and presumptuous. I'm pretty sure the whole point of ED is to show colleges that you are very interested in attending, and I have already stated that I would be happy going to any of the three. Besides, don't tell me that the majority of people who apply ED aren't thinking about the fact that it is slightly easier to get in early.
<p>Apply ED to the college you want to go to the most. Legacy admit rates for ED are above 50%, so yea, a lot of those ED spots get taken by legacies and athletes. Regardless, there are plenty of people who get into Penn ED that are neither. If your first choice is Penn and you get into Duke or Cornell ED you'll be thnking "maybe I could have gotten into Penn, I wish I went there, this place sucks." Also, if you don't think you can get in ED, good luck getting in RD. The applicant pool is larger and arguably more competitive because you throw in Harvard and Princeton applicants, and even people admitted to Yale and Stanford SCEA. ED you're only up against people who have Penn as their first choice, not the super brilliant ones who have gotten into more selective schools.</p>
<p>Hahahah aren't we mature this morning on the Penn board.</p>
<p>That kid who said you're in it just for prestige and for gaming the system is right. You're considering putting down a different major when you said right off the bat that you want economics just so that it's easier to get in.</p>
<p>You come in here asking for easily findable statistics. Do some of your own research. It's a difficult concept, I know, but it isn't everyone else's responsibility to help you game the system by finding disparities in RD and ED admit rates.</p>
<p>And then when somebody calls you on it, you throw a little self-important hissy fit. Asking for advice does not always mean you will hear what you want to hear. Especially when you're acting like a creepy d-bag. This is four years of your life. This is not a brand name. You are making decisions about four years of your life based essentially on hassle next year.</p>
<p>It really is too bad that kid went and made that obnoxious state school comment, because he was right until then. You need to take a good look at what you want out of college and what you consider success. I guarantee you won't, and it'll be your loss. So if you end up at Cornell like that last guy said, wondering why you didn't go to Penn, know in your heart of hearts it is one and only one person's fault,yours.</p>
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Hahahah aren't we mature this morning on the Penn board.</p>
<p>That kid who said you're in it just for prestige and for gaming the system is right. You're considering putting down a different major when you said right off the bat that you want economics just so that it's easier to get in.</p>
<p>You come in here asking for easily findable statistics. Do some of your own research. It's a difficult concept, I know, but it isn't everyone else's responsibility to help you game the system by finding disparities in RD and ED admit rates.</p>
<p>And then when somebody calls you on it, you throw a little self-important hissy fit. Asking for advice does not always mean you will hear what you want to hear. Especially when you're acting like a creepy d-bag. This is four years of your life. This is not a brand name. You are making decisions about four years of your life based essentially on hassle next year.</p>
<p>It really is too bad that kid went and made that obnoxious state school comment, because he was right until then. You need to take a good look at what you want out of college and what you consider success. I guarantee you won't, and it'll be your loss. So if you end up at Cornell like that last guy said, wondering why you didn't go to Penn, know in your heart of hearts it is one and only one person's fault,yours.
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<p>haha I made the state school remark not because I look down on states schools, but b/c if the OP ended up going to one he would think his life were over/kill himself even though plenty of people do fine in them. Just to clarify things (tho this is the internet so I shouldnt really care what others think of me :P)</p>
<p>I think both sides have some valid points. The first guy talked about "ED spirit". Okay, your ideas are good and I agree that you should absolutely not apply to a school ED just because of increased acceptance rates, but there is no "ED spirit" akin to Christmas spirit. Believing in some sort of wholesome, heartwarming spirit of unity during ED time is.... just deluding yourself. ED is as ferocious as RD, and burns a LOT of really qualified kids. However, you should NEVER apply to a school ED just to get in: you must love the school. I applied ED to Cornell and got deferred (aka burned) but I did so because Cornell was, bar none, my first choice. Go research Cornell, Duke, and Penn and decide which is your favorite. If none of them strike your fancy 100%, do not apply there ED. The ED Gods can detect lack of ED spirit. Better watch out ;)</p>
<p>Haha, I wasn't looking to get into an argument, and I was by no means considering choosing a stupid major just because it was easier. To whoever made that comment, I'm definitely majoring in economics, I just wanted to know if it would be harder depending on what I chose, so get off my ****. And how many times do I have to say it, these are my top three choices, so it's not like I haven't thought about it and am just applying to get in. Geez, some people are so insecure and quick to flame others. "ED spirit", lol. Thanks Venkat and McMath and for being helpful in your posts, unlike some people.</p>
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Haha, I wasn't looking to get into an argument, and I was by no means considering choosing a stupid major just because it was easier. To whoever made that comment, I'm definitely majoring in economics, I just wanted to know if it would be harder depending on what I chose, so get off my ****. And how many times do I have to say it, these are my top three choices, so it's not like I haven't thought about it and am just applying to get in. Geez, some people are so insecure and quick to flame others. "ED spirit", lol. Thanks Venkat and McMath and for being helpful in your posts, unlike some people.
<p>^^ Lmao, what's your point exactly? Just because you got into penn already, doesn't mean you can start acting like an ass. If everybody there is as pompous as you then maybe it isn't where I want to go.</p>
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^^ Lmao, what's your point exactly? Just because you got into penn already, doesn't mean you can start acting like an ass. If everybody there is as pompous as you then maybe it isn't where I want to go.
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What makes you think you can get in/ I want you at Penn? I'm not rude, I just dislike spoiled "pricks".</p>
<p>ThePerson1 - Don't let legacy statistics get in your mind when your applying because if you end up thinking that you don't stand a chance, and you settle for another school (not saying that Duke or Cornell would necessarily be considered "settling") then you will go on for sometime thinking "what if I had applied to penn ED? "(assuming that's where you really want to go). Don't make stats the reason to apply somewhere ED, make you the reason to apply somewhere ED. Don't get caught thinking "I love this school, but its so hard to get in that I just won't try ED." Believe in yourself because your your own best advocate; that was my key in securing a spot at penn, and I wish you the best of luck in your decision making.</p>
<p>kclee: I'm not sure what gave you the idea that I care whatsoever about your opinion. One would think that you have better things to do than flame people on the internet. And I was just saying that stuck up "pricks" like you give penn a bad name. I mean like, "Oh Nohz, some egotistical troll on the internet doesn't want me to go to this school! I think I'm gonna go cry in a corner!" Please just stop posting in this thread if you have nothing helpful to say, because you're just making yourself look stupid and insecure.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice Jay. I get what you're saying, and I'm sure I would have doubts down the road about wheter or not I made the right choice. All these choices and decisions are so stressful :(</p>
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kclee: I'm not sure what gave you the idea that I care whatsoever about your opinion. One would think that you have better things to do than flame people on the internet. And I was just saying that stuck up "pricks" like you give penn a bad name. I mean like, "Oh Nohz, some egotistical troll on the internet doesn't want me to go to this school! I think I'm gonna go cry in a corner!" Please just stop posting in this thread if you have nothing helpful to say, because you're just making yourself look stupid and insecure.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice Jay. I get what you're saying, and I'm sure I would have doubts down the road about wheter or not I made the right choice. All these choices and decisions are so stressful
<p>Although i'm not a part of this argument, you guys should really stop and develop some maturity before posting such unnecessary comments
Just stick to replying to the OP's question, and that is where the discussion should end.</p>