<p>thanks for your reply. so you think i would be competitive at CAS even with my unusual circumstances?</p>
<p>are you applying to CAS also or just CGS?</p>
<p>hopefully we will see each other in the fall. <em>fingers crossed</em></p>
<p>I am applying to CGS because I've been in the workforce since 1991 after graduating from HS. In 2000, I went to a local college from the following school years as a fulltime student:</p>
<p>2000-2001
2004-2005</p>
<p>Overall, I finished with a 3.5GPA. Since I work during the day, Penn CGS works well with my job schedule because I can take my classes at night. If all goes well, I'll take some day classes if time allows it. </p>
<p>You should have no problems getting into Penn CAS. But you never know with the craziness of the admissions process.</p>
<p>redlinekid2 - you're pretty much exactly the target audience for CGS. </p>
<p>Be aware however, that there are relatively few upper level classes in the evening. In my major, Classics, there are NO 3xx or above classes offered in the evening (and only a few 2xx). I'm lucky enough to work at 35th and Market, so I have just a short walk to class. Others are not so fortunate.</p>
<p>Since you'll likely transfer most of your core requirements from your earlier work (which can be quite an adventure) you'll want to get your employer and advisor(s) on the same frequency as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Hi, i'm an international student studying in Australia...i just found out about CGS...i have always dreamt of going to an Ivy, but it's out of reach for financial reasons, so i think the CGS is too good to pass up...i'm seriously considering transferring to Penn CGS, is it possible since i'm not a working adult or anthing close to CGS's 'traditional students'? Also, do i have to be 21 before i can be eligible to study at the CGS?</p>
<p>Yes, I believe you have to be 21. But double check on that with an admissions counselor. I believe there is something on the site about people under 21.
<a href="http://www.sas.upenn.edu/CGS/undergraduate/admissions.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.sas.upenn.edu/CGS/undergraduate/admissions.php</a></p>
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Though traditionally oriented to the adult student, CGS recognizes that recent high school graduates under the age of 21 may also want to pursue university studies on a part-time basis (i.e. no more than two courses per semester). These students should consider carefully the differences between part-time study and a full-time, residential college experience. CGS encourages interested students of all ages to meet with a CGS advisor to discuss their plans. Call 215.898.7326 for an appointment.
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<p>I need some information about the Yale's Eli Whitnei and Brown's Rue admission process. My girlfriend is applying and didn't get any response from both. She has a friend that was contacted for interview from both. does That means that she doesn't have a chance and her friend is in a good position? She called the brown office but didn't get much information about the interview. they told her about interviewing only finalists. What does it mean , to be a finalist? Good chances?
And until when they usually contact people for interviews?</p>
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Actually the Crimson is the only paper that refers both Uribe and Santos as Extension students. All other media outlets that Ive read have just listed them as plain Harvard grads.
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<p>They are not Extension students in any ordinary sense. Uribe already had a law degree for 15 years in Colombia and was a career politician. He was either sent by the Colombian government or using his own money (he is from the wealthy land-owner class), to get a 1-year management certificate that Harvard offers, which is formally part of the Extension school. Similarly, he was sent by his government on a fellowship to study at Oxford. </p>
<p>Santos arrived at Harvard not by applying to the Extension school but by being awarded a Nieman fellowship which is a prestigious 1-year invitation to journalists from around the world. While on this fellowship he probably had the right to take whatever Harvard courses he wanted, and elected to take a few at the Extension school or get a certificate from HES. He was already involved in running El Tiempo (#1 newspaper in Colombia, owned by his family).</p>
<p>Neither of these were random guys upgrading their credentials with night classes, they were at the top level in their country before reaching HES.</p>
<p>Is anybody familiar with Northwestern SCS program?</p>
<p>HES is a real Harvard degree, but as long as they use the word "extension" to describe their B.A., don't offer campus housing, don't allow HES students the same accesses that HC gets, allow anyone to enroll and most importantly, don't get public endorsement from the President and other administrators at HC, there will always be a stigma, or asterisk next to that degree. I was invited to attend HES and recently found out that I was awarded a Phi Theta Kappa scholarship that would cover the costs of my classes there, but I will instead start at UPenn CGS in the fall and I just visited for the first time last friday (I thought I had died and gone to heaven). UPenn CGS is not at all a step down from the rest of UPenn. Just because of the controversy people continue to make about HES, many on this thread have attempted to put UPenn CGS in that same light, but because I can live on campus at UPenn with anyone I'd like, major in anything I want, take the same classes and get the same exact degree as the rest of UPenn students, I think it is more than a little obvious that UPenn CGS is not a stepdown from the rest of the college and HES is a stepdown from the rest of Harvard. People will respect HES more when they realize you have to be superior academically to get in.</p>
<p>Congrats datdue! I'm eagerly interested in Penn CGS as well but don't have enough info (save for the site).</p>
<p>I'm currently in a CC</p>
<p>What were your stats like? How difficult is admissions? What's your major?</p>
<p>Wengerism,
You are smart to aspire for great things at your CC. People think once they enroll at a CC that the possibility of getting into their "dream school" has gotten further away, when in reality, that possibility has probably gotten stronger, depending on how hard they work and how much they aspire to acheive greatness while they are there. At my CC, I was Editor-in-Chief of my college newspaper (majored in journalism) and our paper won a couple of Columbia Scholastic Press Association gold-crowns, I was president of the BSU, VP of public relations for PTK honor society, SGA senator and was one of the two students from my school to be nominated to the All-USA Academic Team. I also received many awards for academic excellence and leadership for my time there. I interned for my local newspaper and accomplished great things there. I graduated cum laude, with a 3.5 GPA, was featured in my local newspaper the day after my graduation, and at my graduation, was one of 4 students my college president spoke about acheiving great things despite some rough times in life. At every school I applied to, I sent portfolios of all my writing, because to be honest, that is my strength and a great talent of mine. After getting rejected from Cornell & NYU, HES sent a special invitation and I got into UPenn, which was my first choice all along. At UPenn my major will be communications at the Annenberg School for Communications, although I'll have to apply to that school after I prove myself there. Good luck where you are and keep aspiring for bigger things than most people think you are good enough for, seeing that you attend a CC.</p>
<p>I have a question, so in all these programs there is the HES, Penn GS, Columbia GS, and isnt htere a brown continuing studies program of some sort as well? I was wondering out of those programs and any other I did not list in the Ivies which ones when you finish come out with the same degree as a regular undergrad and which have access to all the other things reg students have as well.<br>
-Would I qualify, I basically graduated HS in 05 then for the last two years I have been with my father traveling the world as we work with doctors in trying to find treatments or something to stabalizae a rare disorder which has been taking control of his life for the last two years. I started in a private school in my home city as we are back home this summer. I have just completed summer session and plan to enroll in the fall, am i still a proper applicant, or would i just go through regular transfer admissions?</p>
<p>gregcroom4,
From what I understand, there is a continuing-ed program at Brown, but you must research that to make sure. Hope your dad gets better. It sounds like you've lived an interesting life over the last couple of years and admissions offivers will probably see that for themselves. I don't know about Brown, but UPenn CGS is super. It is not at all in any way different than the other programs at the university as far as prestige and the actual degree. Good luck and I'd encourage you to apply to UPenn CGS.</p>
<p>I will certainly look into it. I think grade wise in college and high school I am doing/did real well. I probably need to retake my SAT as i took it just on the whim so that I could enter a school. Anyways, I am seriously considering applying as a normal transfer student. Do you think that would be advisable?</p>
<p>datdude.</p>
<p>Thanx for the illuminating post. From your experience I now realise that it's a huge task to get in. To be honest my stats and EC's are nowhere near, but I'm only in my 2nd Semester & i'm still very much determined to gear up academically. I also like to write, but nothing official yet. I intend to take conventional college tests as part of my portfolio - hoping good scores will supplement some of my very average grades.
A few questions pls...</p>
<p>Did you have an interview?
How sufficient is your scholarship?
Were you able to transfer your credits?
Is it feasible to transfer before the end of CC or to graduate & apply?</p>
<p>Many thanx!</p>
<p>gregrcroom,
Sorry to get back to you so late, but yes, I would suggest that you apply straight up as a normal student. I just want you to know that by applying period you are applying as a normal student. I know that you did not mean that CGS students are not normal, but I just don't want you to think that applying in any form is lesser or greater than. There is only one UPenn and the only difference is between majors.</p>
<p>Wengerism,
To answer some of your questions, no, I did not have an interview. I sent them my absolute best writing samples over two seperate portfolios, an updated resume, copies of awards and certificates I was honored with and just as important, I honestly believe I sent them a world-class essay (it was almost as good as the one I sent Harvard). So far out of the 67 credits I graduated CC with, they are initially taking only 48, but that's until I show them a few course syllibi from my CC. I am getting significant financial aid, as I just found out tonight, and I would certainly finish CC before transferring to such a great school as UPenn. In the end, it saves you money and gives you an opportunity to prove yourself.</p>
<p>What si the difference between majors you were talking about, so something like wharton would not be available?. I understand student housing is available in some cases which is exciting since I really miss and wanted that colelge experience. Is the e-mail title the same, are they sort of segregated as some traditional students and the CS students might be paired up or anything like that? There are many classes that are different or just a small few from the everyother penn student? It really soudns like a great program, I am thinking of applying for this spring.
I hope to goto Law school afterwards, how is grad school placement in the program? I should have close to a 4.0 after 24 hours in this private college here and my high school I did well grade wise but my SATs were slackign which I am thinking to retake again, my extra c's are limited due to my situation but whatever I have been involved i have put my whole heart into it and it should show. WHat things should I work on for the app, or any other advice, inishght? Thanks DatDude, you have been very helpful.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice. If you don't mind i'd be delighted to read a copy/draft of your 'world-class essay' - could you PM me?</p>
<p>Good luck in all. Thanks again.</p>
<p>"I hope to goto Law school afterwards, how is grad school placement in the program?"</p>
<p>Same for me as well. </p>
<p>gregcroom4 what's your current major?</p>