<p>i know that Upenn doesnt do score choices and that it requires all SATs..... does that in clude SAT2s? </p>
<p>because i have a 600ish in US History while 780,800 on the other 2 (Chem, math 2). do i need to send my history one???</p>
<p>and does it look bad if i took SAT more than 3 times?? my scores have been increasing by 100 points every time o.o, and English is not my first language ( since ive only lived in US for 3-4 years) Would a toefl of 109/120 and my language status help me in admission?</p>
<p>dfree124 is correct - you must send all scores. Did you not know about Penn’s no score choice policy before taking history for fun?</p>
<p>Also, taking the SAT 3 times won’t make a significant difference in your application. The only thing is it will be less impressive than someone who got the same score but only took it once. It doesn’t really matter though.</p>
<p>don’t even worry about it. 2 of my SAT 2’s were pretty bad and apparently, it didn’t matter.</p>
<p>^^^also, about the comment, “The only thing is it will be less impressive than someone who got the same score but only took it once. It doesn’t really matter though.”</p>
<p>haha not true at all lol. honestly, I find it funny how everyone freaks out about the SAT when Penn cares so much more about ECs and diversity (not only ethnicity, but where you come from and what you can bring to campus that makes you unique, etc.)</p>
<p>The SAT is just a number. IMO, it tells nothing about an applicant’s character or the kind of person you are. And that’s exactly what Penn wants to get out of your application…</p>
<p>@mandypandy your argument does not invalidate what I said. Your argument only talks about how Penn cares about ECs and diversity more, but that doesn’t even address what I said. I never said the SAT was the most important factor. Taking it 3 times as opposed to 1 IS less impressive, but it does NOT matter. What is false about that?</p>
<p>But really, mandypandy is right. Penn places minimal focus on SATs and other scores. I did pretty poorly in any quantitative criteria, yet I had very strong ECs and essays. Penn wants real people, not people who study their lives away.</p>
<p>The thing with score choice is, if you use it, colleges won’t be able to tell that you’ve used it (the colleges will just get a score report, but with only the scores you’ve released to them, there won’t be a huge “SCORE CHOICE WAS USED” anywhere on the score report) so having this policy of “send us everything” is really an honors system thing. Only your conscience will be punishing you and not the admission office. It’s illegal for college board to violate their privacy policy and tell the colleges you’ve used score choice so it’s really up to you. I go to a school with the “send us everything policy and we only consider your best score” and you really don’t have to send anything you don’t want to, they will never know. This is universal among all colleges that have the “send everything” policy - there’s no way for them to know, it’s an honors system. I’m not advocating you do anything specific, just thought you should know, knowledge is power. </p>
<p>@laodicean: Yes, I agree with that. I was never contradicting that in any way, just wanted to clarify that I never said scores were the most important as mandypandy implied by quoting me.</p>
<p>In my opinion, if “no score choice” is by the honor system and there is no real way to check for honesty, they should get rid of the policy. Just let everyone submit their top scores if that’s what you only look at anyway…</p>
<p>“SAT Subject Tests are recommended but not required. Applicants who do not take SAT Subject Tests will not be at a disadvantage. Because SAT Subject Tests are optional, applicants may use Score Choice to selectively send their SAT Subject Test scores.”</p>