<p>3.6 gpa, poli sci major at ucsd, projected 165 on lsat, what are my chances at upenn or chicago</p>
<p>Looking at 2003 numbers, your GPA would have been about average for Penn, and your projected LSAT at the 25th percentile. Ditto for your GPA at Chicago, but the 25th percentile there started at 167.</p>
<p>You're in the range where your best shot of making it into a school of Penn or Chicago's caliber is to apply to as many as you can. Yale, Stanford and Harvard are probably real long-shots. Lightening is most likely to strike those people who climb a lot of tall trees during thunderstorms.</p>
<p>I plugged in your #s for UPenn. For the class entering law school in the fall of 2003, UPenn accepted somewhere between 10 and 25% of applicants with those stats. UChicago accepted fewer than 10%. Your odds will PROBABLY be bit worse, assuming the # of applicant to law school continues to increase.</p>
<p>I really recommend the calculator--not perfect, but better than anyone's estimate.</p>
<p>Ditto to Jonri on the calculator. </p>
<p>If you are really motivated, try to find the grids for each school (they are usually on their website). It has a range of LSATs on one side, a range of GPAs on another, and the corresponding boxes in the middle have # applied and # accepted. Those are great and probably the best measure of where you'll get in.</p>
<p>To paraphrase the Princeton Review, you think you're looking pretty good for law school - 99th percentile LSAT and a 3.4. You have less than a 1% chance of getting into Harvard or Yale, but you are a virtual lock at Duke and Boston College. </p>
<p>That's as close as I can get to the PR take on the whole thing. So, that said, Greybeard is right on. Apply to Penn, Duke, Chicago, UVA, Northwestern, Boalt, Georgetown, etc. - and safety/match schools (BC, Emory, W&M, W&L, UCLA, etc). Throw in a safety or two, maybe a Columbia/NYU/Cornell, and you're good to go.</p>
<p>As Aries said, you should apply everywhere outside of HYS if you want to maximize your chances of admission to the top 14 (Michigan has an even better rep than Penn, and you might have better odds of admission there.) </p>
<p>And definitely apply to a number of targets, along with some safeties. Some obvious schools to hit are UCLA and USC. </p>
<p>(I'm not sure why you lump Cornell in with Columbia/NYU instead of the other top schools, though -- I thought their numbers were lower.) </p>
<p>I've also had a hard time finding that grid on LSAC.org lately. Anyone got a link?</p>
<p>It's not the same thing as the grid, but it's pretty close.</p>
<p>oh yeah i just wanted to add a couple of things: do extracurriculars count (I have managed a small business (70k), Assistant SM for a troop, knights of columbus, dj at radio station, and part time wworking)</p>
<p>i wish i wasnt borderline</p>
<p>Many schools may grant you extra consideration if you suffer from borderline personality disorder, so this isn't necessarily a negative.</p>