<p>Dude, it's totally something to be proud of. You've shown that you know how to have a great time wtihout breaking the law, something many people have a hard time achieving. It's an accomplishment really.</p>
<p>Yeah i know, but i mean, while i dont agree with it at all, i can respect the fact that a lot of my friends have stayed away from it all of high school and now that they have some down time they want to try some things out. I also dont have as MUCH of a problem with having a beer with pizza (as a food thing). But, unfortunatley, high school students rarely do anything in moderation.</p>
<p>Its just a personal thing for me. I dont really enjoy drunk people because i dont enjoy not being able to hold an intelligent conversation with someone. Sometimes i feel like it sorta stops me from experiencing things (i really dont feel like dealing with prom, mostly after prom, so i declined the offers this year. Whatever....screw high school....here i come college.</p>
<p>I refused to touch alcohol until about October this year. I sounded EXACTLY like Jazzman. Boy do times change....I'd encourage all of you to TRY drinking RESPONSIBLY...if you don't like it then don't do it. But you can't knock something you haven't tried. Going out in search of booze when you are a freshman is an experience that no one should miss out on.</p>
<p>^^ Maybe....but i can think of better things to do.</p>
<p>I also suppose that puking your guts out, getting an MIP, and generally making a total fool of yourself is also an experience that no one should miss out on. Look, plenty of people can go out, drink, have a good time, and be ok. But there are also some people that can have an even better time without: breaking the law and possibly ****ing people off, doing things they're going to regret, getting ridiculously sick, getting written up/MIP, etc etc. I just don't like the premise of needing to escape reality for having fun, it's like saying you're not an interesting enough of a person to have fun while you're being your normal self. The real experience no one should be without is finding a group of friends who can just hang out together and have an amazing time on a Saturday night just being themselves and enjoying one another for who they actually are, inihibitions and all.</p>
<p>That's a valid point, but you can't say for certain which is better if you haven't experienced both. That's like saying skydiving is less fun than a roller coaster, having never skydived. It's nothing more than conjecture.</p>
<p>Note that I said drink responsibly. What chibears describes (getting MIP's and puking) would not be responsible drinking. But I wouldn't say that people who drink aren't interesting people...again, there's no way of telling that having never had a sip. Regardless, you all should know that chibears holds a minority opinion on this issues, especially having never been drunk (root beer doesn't count mr. chibears). You'll find that at UM, the vast majority of people are pretty responsible drinkers, adding to a more complete experience in Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>KB</p>
<p>Until about September of this year, I was also pretty straight, thinking that I'd never drink with my friends. But that quickly changed and now I drink about 4 times a week. Most of the time, it is pretty casual, but I get often plastered on weekends.
Actually, I just feel like **** right now and want to punch something really hard. My school was a ***** about it.</p>
<p>I wouldn't worry about your scholarship maguo. The only requirement is that you do not break university academic rules/social rules (which you haven't done).</p>
<p>maguo1, I hate to interrupt your little pity party here, but, as a faculty member at University of Michigan, I am specifically telling you that you should NOT withhold this from the University. Alexandre, as knowledgable as he is, is incorrect on this one. Think about what happened when Michael Phelps, the Olympic gold medalist who attends U of M, was arrested for DUI just prior to his matriculation here. Fortunately, he had the very good sense to publicly apologize AFTER notifying U of M. He was not denied admission and started on time.</p>
<p>Quite frankly, if your high school knows and has suspended you, it is going to show up on your end of year transcript that is sent to U of M. You DON'T want UM to find out that way. You need to write a letter, acknowledge that you screwed up, are sorry, and won't do it again. Then DON'T do it again!</p>
<p>A DUI and an MIP are two different things, and Michael Phelps operated under differant rules because he was an athlete. Maguo is a matriculated current UM student, and technically operates under the same rules I do. If I were to get an MIP tomorrow, I'd be under no obligation to report it to anyone, and I don't think he is either. If it gives you more piece of mind, you could ask your HS counselor or a UM advisor, but I'd disagree with quiltguru's assesment.</p>
<p>KB</p>
<p>Jazzy.. you can't not go to prom because you don't want to "deal with it".</p>
<p>For one, prom is a good time, and I'd hate to you see one of those broken people that didn't go to their senior prom. For two, not everyone drinks, and if intelligent conversation is a <em>must</em> at 12 oclock in the morning after prom, then I'm sure there will be someone to chat about current events with ;)</p>
<p>Also, I wanna just invite everyone to party with me in the fall.. I plan on takin full advantage of the booming ;) social life, and if anyone doesn't do that, I'd say you're missing out on alot of the experience of Michigan.</p>
<p>Yeah, I won't say whether drinking is better or not, because I think that is up to each an everyone of you. Just know that each comes with good and bad consequences. I'd recommend going out a couple times and not drinking, and then again drinking and see when you have more fun. Only then will you be able to say with certainty. If you haven't experienced both, there's no way to tell.</p>
<p>Haha there is more to that prom thing than just the drinking. Unfortunately i am a very cynical and somewhat arrogant person (hey i'll admit it and i try to keep my thoughts to myself). For me, prom is everything i loathe about high school. Uneccessary drinking, expensive EVERYTHING (limo's, dresses, tux), popularity contests (king and queen), and the worst part is the music. Pretty much all i listen to is jazz and a few Steely Dan-esque groups and it literally gives me headaches having to listen to that god damn music they play. I dont even mind dancing. Its no fun cause i dont know 98% of the songs they play and done like 75% of the people that are there. I might catch up with some friends after prom...idk yet.</p>
<p>This really sucks. With all my suspensions and stuff, I won't be going back to high school. Wednesday was my very last day of high school. What an ignoble and abrupt end to my hs career. Also saddening is that I won't be able to give my val speech anymore.
Keep posting. I'm grounded and can't talk to any of my friends.</p>
<p>Wow thats freakin rough. Not in defense of what you did or anything, but i really feel like there are A LOT of other kids who deserve much worse punishments for many more violations. I mean c'mon, why do they come down the hardest on the top of the class, but dont even give a crap about the hundreds of scum bags who do this everyday?</p>
<p>Atleast let you give your speech and finish high school, being val. you have obviously worked harder than everyone else.</p>
<p>Although I agree that the actual "crime" in this case was not equal to the punishment, I think the school would be sending the wrong message if they did not take some measures to punish Maguo. But don't let this get you down Maguo, you will have plenty of successes, and a few disapointments, in life.</p>
<p>awww..man...that does suck....I feel for 'ya.</p>
<p>It's for reasons like maguo's episode that a lot of people don't drink. Yeah, many people "drink responsibly" but I can't think of a single person I know this year who hasn't done something totally stupid and ended up hurting themselves or someone else while they were drunk. I've had plenty of people drunk in my room puking and plenty of people who "swear" to themselves they'll never drink again. I don't want any of that. And even though i haven't drank, it doesn't mean I don't know what I'm missing out on. I'm surrounded by it almost daily and have not once seen someone having a better time than I do sober. It's that simple. I'm not the one missing out, they are.</p>
<p>JazzMan, I think you shouldn't avoid prom because there's gonna be people there who are going to drink. The reality is that most people our age do drink and it's something you are going to face in college so there's no use in avoiding it now. Instead, I think you should learn how to deal with people in social situations in which most of the persons are drinking. This does not mean you have to drink and if you are not interested there's no need to do so, no one is going to judge you because of it and if you are not interested then why do it? It is a fact though that a lot of people in college drink and the best thing to do is to learn how to get used to these persons, personally what I do in these situations is that I dont mind hanging out with people who are drinking but if they get too annoying because they are drunk or something I'll stay away, there's always gonna be someone else who does not drink there. You shouldn't miss out on your prom though, it's the last great event in high school, maybe you should just learn how to deal in this kind of situation, you're gonna have to learn sometime.</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your continued posts; keep it up. My history textbook and my cc buddies are my only friends right now. I know it's sad, but I'm really grounded.</p>