<p>My daughter wants to attend a top 20 law school she has a 3.6 gpa. She got a degree in philosophy from a good west coast school. What does she need to score on her LSAT exam to be considered for admission ? Does it help if she is not asking for money?</p>
<p>~165 and she'd have a chance at many.</p>
<p>Hi blondie -- it depends on what race specifically she is. Financial aid requests shouldn't matter much.</p>
<p>Mexican and first in her family to graduate college</p>
<p>I'd probably agree with Mr. Payne's assessment. Congrats on her accomplishments. =)</p>
<p>165 and a 3.6 will get her into a couple T10s even. At least one T14 with some merit money, definitely.</p>
<p>If you are not a URM...please do not post in this thread. If you White or Asian you have no business guesstimating at Latina's chance at law school.</p>
<p>To the OP...your daughter can get into t-14 programs with a 160+ LSAT.</p>
<p>Here is the break down
167+ Harvard, Stanford, and Yale (Outside shot)
165+ Columbia and NYU
162-164 Berkeley, UVA, UPenn, Northwestern, Duke
160 (You can even dip to 158) Cornell, GULC, UCLA, UT, Vandy</p>
<p>Post #7: "If you White or Asian you have no business guesstimating at Latina's chance at law school."</p>
<p>I'm sorry...what?</p>
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<p>I can't speak for poster #7, but I am frankly amused (and somewhat shocked) by what I interpret the one-liner I quote above to mean.</p>
<p>It certainly does not follow that one must be an URM to "guesstimate" the chances of an URM. This especially true since most LS admissions committees are likely to be composed by non-URM. It just doesn't follow that an URM would have any especial insight about what the adcoms may think. The one exception I can see--which perhaps poster #7 very poorly tried to communicate--is if an URM with a similar profile has just gone through the process and may consequently provide his or her anecdotal experience. But even then, anecdotal experience won't suffice for sound "guesstimating", yo.</p>
<p>"If you White or Asian you have no business guesstimating at Latina's chance at law school."</p>
<p>So, let me get this straight. Not only are we held to (significantly) higher standards for admission to top schools, but now white people (and asian?) are not even allowed to comment on a minority's chances at acceptance?! I suppose whites and asians are somehow less capable of drawing relevant conclusions from past admissions cycles' data. </p>
<p>Oh, you're probably right though--all in the name of egalitarianism and justice. Let's all pat ourselves on the back since we've surely reached the apogee of fairness and equality.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time in answering, she is getting very nervous over the application process and I just want to give her an idea of where she can apply and have some sucess.</p>
<p>I'm Chinese, and I will have been the first in my family to graduate from college.
It's likely that I will have graduated from an elite East Coast school with a decent GPA but a subpar LSAT.
My family and I desperately need financial aid.</p>
<p>What do I need on the LSATs to be considered for the T14 ;)</p>
<p>Kwu, unfortunately for you Chinese people are not an under-represented minority at elite law schools (in fact, my guess is that they are overrepresented relative to the percentage of the US population that is Chinese). You may get a little bit more gentle treatment for being the first in your family, but only a tiny bit. Your GPA and LSAT score should both be within the 25-75 percentile range for you to have a decent chance of admissions--if one of these is below the 25 %ile, the other should be above the 75 %ile. Of course, it doesn't hurt to apply to some "reach" schools; just don't get your hopes too far up.</p>
<p>As for financial aid, you are VERY unlikely to get anything other than loans from top schools. T14s give out almost no grant money, regardless of financial need. They will let you borrow the full cost of attendance, but you'll have to either get a job that enables you to pay this back (it can be $500-1000 a month for ten years!) or live within the constraints of a school's loan repayment assistance program (some schools' programs are good; others are poor or non-existent). In general, you're only going to get grant money at a school where your GPA and LSAT score are much much better than the other students'.</p>
<p>I was being sarcastic, stacy.</p>
<p>Thank you for the sound and genuine advice, though.</p>
<p>I'll actually invest time and resources into doing well on my LSATs, to the extent that my GPA and race will no longer be concerns.</p>
<p>My daughter has studied very hard for her LSAT exams and does have a good GPA, I just didn't want her reaching to far. I have been on this site for 5 years and it has been very helpful when both my children applied to college and they both got into good schools. I just wanted some extra help for law school as the numbers seem to be all over the map when it comes to mexican female admissions.</p>
<p>URMs get a huge boost for law school admissions. I'd say 158+, shot at Cornell, Georgetown, and Duke; 162+ and she has a decent shot at Berkeley, Penn, Michigan, Virginia, and Northwestern, and 164+ shot at Columbia, NYU, and Chicago, and 167+, shot at the Harvard, Stanford, and Yale.</p>
<p>T10, my understanding is that not all URMs are treated equally in admissions. 165 might be a little high, but I don't know that I'd go quite as low as 158, either.</p>
<p>I know someone who got into New York and Rutgers Law School with less than a 165 LSAT. To be safe, I would aim for a 165 anyways.</p>
<p>I will pass along your postings, I hope she will feel a little better about applying. She arrives in Washngton DC today so I wonder if maybe she wont want to make it her new home along with a million other of her closest friends</p>
<p>Top10LawSchool1L: </p>
<p>I have a 2.5gpa…what score will I need to get into a good law school</p>