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<p>Doesn’t every major university have an established exchange program in Japan?</p>
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<p>Yes, which is why you write St. Louis when you search for it.</p>
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<p>This is why I included ranking 2. Do you not know what quotes mean in google searches? I explained it, but you apparently didn’t read it.</p>
<p>I don’t feel like it worth debating,why prestige is important for you?</p>
<p>Sam Lee-Are you chinese or korean?</p>
<p>ignore my up post.</p>
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<p>Not targeted specifically at you. This thread is just one of whole host of creative rankings that have been posted here over the years. And in nearly every one of them (surprise, surprise) the OP’s school moves up significantly in this new ranking vs. USNews or other common rankings.</p>
<p>I would like to say Chicago is very prestigious abroad from my observations. The op’s ranking is consistent from what I’ve seen in regards to Chicago. In fact, the first time I heard of Chicago was in 9th grade when all of my asian friends said their parents graduated from there. So I guess at least its more prestigious internationally than it is to the average person. But that’s just my perception, and may or may not be reality.</p>
<p>Very interesting thread.</p>
<p>lol people
why so serious?
it’s not like he’s trying to promote terrorism in America</p>
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<p>That may be true, but it’s not necessarily a dead-end approach. To better judge its effectiveness, I think you’d have to include a few schools well outside the top N, then see if this method assigns them a rank reasonably consistent with other methods. When you’re making fine distinctions among close peers it’s hard to say whether this method is really working as intended or if it’s just randomly shuffling the chairs around. </p>
<p>Some people just like measuring stuff. If the outcome bumps up your own school, fine, but even then for some folks this is more like fitting entries in a crossword puzzle than oneupmanship.</p>
<p>I think Chicago, Northwestern and Michigan are very, very prestigious universities in the international scene. A degree from any of the three would “wow” people especially those people from other countries. They are generally as respected as Columbia and UPenn. Even NYU and UCLA are popular and very well respected abroad. However, schools like Emory and Vanderbilt, though I admit are quite good schools, won’t “wow” people outside of the US. </p>
<p>Princeton isn’t really very popular outside of the US. But for those who care, it is considered a top school. </p>
<p>The super heavy weight schools in the world are:</p>
<p>Harvard - on a league of its own</p>
<p>(Oxford, UK) </p>
<p>Group 1: Stanford, MIT, Yale, UC Berkeley and Caltech, (Cambridge, UK)
Group 2: Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Michigan, Northwestern, Hopkins, Duke (LSE, UK)
Group 3: UCLA, NYU, Brown, Texas, UIUC, CMU, Georgia Tech, (Imperial, UK) and the like </p>
<p>For universities, postgrad education plays a huge part of its prestige. Schools that don’t offer postgrad, in general, are having a hard time making a name abroad. With the exception of the US Military Academy (West Point), which often comes out on movies and TV series, the rest of the LACs aren’t popular and prestigious abroad.</p>
<p>^^^Wisconsin has to be in the above list!</p>
<p>hmm i’d say</p>
<p>Harvard
Oxford
Yale Princeton Cambridge Standford MIT
Berkeley Columbia
caltech Penn Imperial Cornell LSE
Chicago Michigan UCLA Duke USC NYU</p>
<p>schools that -> Domestic prestige > International prestige</p>
<p>Caltech, Brown, Rice, JHU, NU, and DARTMOUTH</p>
<p>schools that -> International prestige > Domestic prestige</p>
<p>UCLA, NYU, Cornell, USC</p>
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Even if they do, they probably don’t have the same number of exchange programs in Japan.</p>
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“Washington University” gives you George Washington Universty, Western Washington University…etc.</p>
<p>Wisconsin is great and all. I think it’s one of the best. But I would put it in Group 4. The schools that fall in Group 3 all have subjects that they specialize and are quite renown for it. For example, UT-Austin great of engineering. LSE for social sciences and economics. Wisconsin is good at almost everything but there isn’t one particular field that it truly excels in. </p>
<p>Oh wait. Sociology must be one. However, no one really cares about sociology that much outside of the US.</p>
<p>This is just my opinion, however.</p>
<p>"The super heavy weight schools in the world are:</p>
<p>Harvard - on a league of its own</p>
<p>(Oxford, UK)</p>
<p>Group 1: Stanford, MIT, Yale, UC Berkeley and Caltech, (Cambridge, UK)
Group 2: Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Michigan, Northwestern, Hopkins, Duke (LSE, UK)
Group 3: UCLA, NYU, Brown, Texas, UIUC, CMU, Georgia Tech, (Imperial, UK) and the like</p>
<p>However, schools like Emory and Vanderbilt, though I admit are quite good schools, won’t “wow” people outside of the US. "</p>
<p>You’ve gotta be kiddin me. First of all, sure UC Berkeley and UMichigan are well known in the world. But they dont have the wow factor. And dont get me started on UIUC, CMU, Georgia Tech, and Texas. I agree that they are good school and very strong in engineering, but I wouldnt put them up there as they are just as good as Purdue. </p>
<p>Only some American universities have the “wow” reputation in the world and they’re just the top 5 which are HYPSM.
UPenn isnt that well respected in the world, but Wharton is. Hell…it’s not even known by people in California…they always thought, sure there must be a university called University of [insert a state name].
Brown wasnt that well known to the world before Emma Watson went there.
Caltech and Hopkins are only known in certain area. If you want to include Hopkins, you have to include UCSF and WashU. If you want to include Caltech, then go ahead add Purdue, CMU, Georgia Tech, UIUC, and Texas.</p>
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<p>He’s really not kiddin you. Basically, in order of importance to human civilization it goes something like:</p>
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<li>Fire</li>
<li>The Wheel</li>
<li>Antibiotics</li>
<li>Internet</li>
<li>Cal Berkeley</li>
<li>Birkenstocks</li>
<li>Pocket protector</li>
<li>Crazy pills</li>
<li>HYPSM force field</li>
<li>Ivy League leaf shredder</li>
<li>Gene Roddenberry</li>
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<p>^don’t forget Chesley Bonestell! And the U of Wisconsin too (not a standout in the social sciences? Someone took their crazy pill).</p>
<p>How would Princeton, for example, “wow” people outside of the US when a lot of them haven’t even heard of it?</p>
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<p>Berkeley is a very prestigious name abroad. Of course, in the States, the school is not that prestigious outside of California. And most Californians prefer Stanford and the ivies over Berkeley (at least for undergraduate education).</p>
<p>Michigan is not even necessarily prestigious to Michiganders themselves.</p>
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<p>Brown was well known when Amy Carter and JFK Jr. went there.</p>
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<p>Hopkins is more (internationally) prestigious than UCSF and WashU. Caltech is more (internationally) prestigious than Purdue, CMU, Georgia Tech, UIUC, and Texas.</p>
<p>I wonder why most public schools are more well known than universities like Dartmouth or Brown (these two are always forgotten, lol).</p>
<p>Considering the fact that public schools are EXTREMELY EASY to get into as freshman for international students (maybe except for UCs), should Dartmouth or Brown considered to be more prestigious? (please be able to distinguish between “prestigious” and “well-known”)</p>
<p>if you are to ask how easy it is, I’ll tell you: I’ve heard internationals who have 1600-1700 SATs and 80ish TOEFL (with mediocre ECs and template LORs) admitted to top engineering public schools e.g. UIUC, UWisc, UMich, GTech, Penn State, VTech, etc.</p>
<p>It’s unfair how international students who worked really hard studying English in high school, got near perfect SAT, TOEFL scores, had stellar ECs, and attended elusive unis. like D or B, ended up going back to their countries being “viewed” as less “scholarly” than, say, UMich or UWisc grads.</p>