<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>CalTech
MIT
Stanford</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Columbia
Dartmouth
Chicago</li>
<li>Cornell
WUSTL</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Emory
Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Carneie Mellon
Berkeley</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Michigan
Virginia</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Tufts
UNC Chapel Hill
USC</li>
</ol>
<p>Dartmouth's best chance at a move up is when the data from this class is used and top 10% of the class moves up to 91%.</p>
<p>yeah. hope it will move up soon</p>
<p>dont get hung up on dartmouth ever moving up beyond 8th</p>
<p>h y and p have brand recognition for ever and ever
stanford is th ivy of the west<br>
duke the ivy of the south
both of these get the outside norhteast nods
caltech in a world of its own and way too specialized to compare with d
mit has its own uniqueness and recognition</p>
<p>so u of p, columbia dart and cornell (brown) will alway fight for the 8 9 10 11
then you get the other non ivy greats like u of chicago which will nudge one
of the ivies down</p>
<p>does anyone care if u brag you go to the 8th best school or the tenth</p>
<p>every school is unique....dart we know is unique for undergrad education</p>
<p>actually, penn was all alone at number 4 last year, lest we forget. i agree that 1,2,3 will pretty much always remain the same, but the rest of the top 15 can change. still, those small differences mean nothing.</p>
<p>hey, slipper, I thought that the '10s were "The Worst Class Ever"... LOL</p>
<p>that they are :)</p>
<p>i think at some point college ranking are like saying, "Whose a better power hitter, Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth?" Although the rankings can be useful I think people kind of obsess over them and apply to all 8 ivys or apply to every top 10 school rather than actually looking for schools they would be truly happy at. At some point who cares if the school is number 3 or number 9?</p>
<p>Here's my take:</p>
<p>A large number of people who go to the top schools don't end their education with an undergraduate degree. Many of them go on to business, law, or medical schools, if not just pursue a graduate degree in whatever it is they study.</p>
<p>My point is this: Who the hell cares if a school is ranked as being better because it has a larger endowment or if it has a better professor-to-student ratio? In my mind, the ONLY rankings that matter are grad school placement rankings and job placement/mean and median income post-undergrad rankings. </p>
<p>I mean, for instance, this year Princeton is ranked above Harvard. However, though I can't be sure and could be horribly mistaken, I feel as though a Harvard degree this year would still get you into a better law/med/biz school than someone with a Pton degree in the same field, same GPA, and same test scores.</p>
<p>Here's a good (and pretty fair) article about the college ranking system:
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/16/business/media/16leonhardt.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin%5B/url%5D">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/16/business/media/16leonhardt.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin</a></p>