<p>"parent2noles, get over yourself! Open your eyes and see that FSU is not all that it was cut out to be as it was in the '80s. They only students they get are the ones that were rejected from UMiami and UF. The reputation the seminoles have created is a negative party image -- parents are not going to want their kids going there. Therefore, no smart kids @ their college? Rankings go down. FSU will drop in 2008. UCF will rise. It's getting more competitive from what I've read."</p>
<p>WOW, just WOW. Why all the hatred Fabiolita? I'm sure your parents raised you better than that.</p>
<p>UF <em>should</em> rise this year, but I think it may not. For some reason the top 10% stats are "N/A" in this years CDS....and that's a metric US News tracks in their ratings...and has been a UF strong point relative to its peer institutions (85%+ and been consistently rising). So, it's possible UF may take a dip.</p>
<p>UCF & FIU are just Tier 4 regional schools. They will never be on par with FSU & USF. Their fledgeling Medical School are going to drain all of their resources from their Undergraduate/Graduate programs, and they will be hurting for the next decade. Meanwhile FSU & USF are going to be raising tuition by over 40 & 30%, and will leave them both in the dust.</p>
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UF <em>should</em> rise this year, but I think it may not. For some reason the top 10% stats are "N/A" in this years CDS....and that's a metric US News tracks in their ratings...and has been a UF strong point relative to its peer institutions (85%+ and been consistently rising). So, it's possible UF may take a dip.
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<p>Very possible, I'm expecting no change to a 1 slot dip from 47.</p>
<p>All I wanted was evidence of the contention that UCF is supposed to jump over USF and then FSU. If you have the evidence, please post it. If anyone is going to post assertions such as that, I want to see the evidence.</p>
<p>For example, we can easily see where FSU is because we can review virtually all facts online. I have found nothing that corroborates your assertions that FSU only admits students who failed to be admitted to UMiami or UF. Similarly, the "party" assertion - where is your proof? Where are your facts that one university has more parties than another? Just present the evidence, please.</p>
<p>Now, we might note that similar objective evidence from UF is fairly easily obtained as well. It is difficult to find such evidence from the University of Miami, however. They choose not to disclose it. Do you have evidence for them, too?</p>
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parent2noles, get over yourself! Open your eyes and see that FSU is not all that it was cut out to be as it was in the '80s. They only students they get are the ones that were rejected from UMiami and UF. The reputation the seminoles have created is a negative party image -- parents are not going to want their kids going there. Therefore, no smart kids @ their college? Rankings go down. FSU will drop in 2008. UCF will rise. It's getting more competitive from what I've read.
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<p>If FSU kids are the ones rejected from Miami and UF (which isnt necessarily true because FSU has some top programs, as does Miami), then UCF kids (except for compsci) are the ones rejected from FSU ;)</p>
<p>The number of apps, average SAT score of enrolled students, and alumni giving for Duke all increased in the 1 year following the Lax scandal - meaning if anything, Duke should go up in the rankings. Not go down. Penn's average SAT went slighty lower, so they might end up being tied.</p>
Do you have a link/source for this? Just curious, because I couldn't find any indication of this online, and it would be very surprising given that Penn's acceptance rate went down from 20.8% in 2005 to 17.7% in 2006 (the relevant year for the 2008 USNWR ranking), while Penn's yield INCREASED a bit to 66.2% during that same period. </p>
<p>It would be counterintuitive (albeit possible, I suppose) for Penn's AVERAGE SAT scores (as distinguished from middle-50% range) to have not risen, let alone gone down, under these circumstances.</p>
<p>thoughtprocess, the selectivity rank is comprised of percentage of kids in top 10 percent (40 percent), sat range (50 percent), and acceptance (10 percent). Let's see for a second. Penn has around 94 percent in the top 10 percent as compared to Duke's 88 percent. Penn has a lower acceptance rate. Even if Penn's range fell by around 10 points. Duke's sats are not that much higher to offset the fact that does much better in the other two categories.</p>
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<p>The applicable statistics for the next USNWR rankings are from 2006 and not this past admissions cycle.</p>
<p>Anyway, most schools see an increase in apps, SAT scores, etc. - so what matters is how large such increases are with respect to each school.</p>
<p>"Duke University's applications decreased 4.6 percent for the fall (2006)freshman class, but the applicant pool is still the second largest on record, the university announced Tuesday."</p>
<p>"The numbers were greeted with a sigh of relief by Duke officials, who feared a significant drop in applications in the aftermath of the lacrosse scandal that has made national news for 10 months. Early admission applicants had decreased by nearly 20 percent."</p>
<p>I hope UF rises. I don't see why they won't. More people will be applying, which means less acceptance percentage. And Im not exactly sure what peer assessment is...but if its what I think it is, why would any UF student not give a good assessment after 3 national championships:) Jk with that because the assessment is most likely academically centered. Anyway I hope UF will rise anywhere from 40-45.</p>
<p>When do you think they'll start counting the SAT Writing section in their analysis of the schools? Me thinks the tech schools are gonna get pwned.</p>