<p>Stanford knocked down to 5th place below UIUC ! How is that possible ?</p>
<p>It’s pretty lol with USC being Top10 in overall rankings but is not in any Top10 specialty rank.</p>
<p>I believe the specialty rankings are mostly based on reputation of the program among faculty in the field. So it just means that professors decided to rank Illinois above Stanford this year. Their EE program also went up to 2nd tied with Stanford, which should be expected since it’s closely tied to CompE. It may or may not continue to hold but Illinois was 3rd in EE back in the '95 NRC rankings (which professors care most about since it’s research focused) so it’s nothing new to see it near the top.</p>
<p>USC’s overall engineering ranking has always been highly inflated, probably because of its high research spending per faculty. (With which they apparently can’t produce many results because their peer scores are low.)</p>
<p>I’M TOP IN MY CLASS WITH A 7.34 GPA (UNWEIGHTED, DON’T ASK) AND A 2450 SAT (ALSO DON’T ASK) AND I ENDED WORLD HUNGER WITH MY FOOD-O-RAY</p>
<p>I AM THE SMARTEST BEING IN THE WOOOORRLLLD</p>
<p>ohhh now where’s that list of college rankings? im not smart enough to choose my own school based on how well it meets my own needs</p>
<p>the only thing I’ve seen this list used for really is bragging rights. One of my EE friends at Cal Poly Slo kept talking about how his school was better than UC Davis’s or something.</p>
<p>"Stanford knocked down to 5th place below UIUC ! How is that possible ? "</p>
<p>Easy. College rankings are horsesht.</p>
<p>I think they mean something, but as far as numbers go, they’re probably just a step up above horsesht. It’d be a better idea to maybe make like three categories: Really good schools, good schools, decent schools, and then anything not worth mentioning is not mentioned.</p>
<p>I think that the USNews Engineering rankings are pretty good if you separate the public and private schools. Mr. Payne has argued on this forum that public schools are underrated by US News engineering rankings because they tend to offer lots of non-engineering majors that weigh down certain factors. I’ve argued before that public schools are overrated by US News Engineering Rankings because they are larger and have greater clout. </p>
<p>I think it would be interesting to do a survey of students accepted to specific schools as computer engineering majors to determine which schools are “preferred”. I.e, if 80% of the students accepted to UIUC and Stanford picked Stanford, then Stanford would be ranked above UIUC.</p>
<p>al6200, that tells me nothing about the programs. What if a school is in an undesirable location? What if it doesn’t offer much financial aid? What if its general reputation is well above/below its program reputation (the former influences students as well)? From a major/specialty ranking (especially in a technical field), I except exactly that – how good a certain program is, not a holistic view. Moreover, I question the judgment of 17-year-olds more than college faculty.</p>
<p>U.S. News is pretty much crap… all based on self rpeorted data. Those who feed manure to the ranking system are rewarded heavily. Peer evaluation is not possible because deans only know about research output, not undergraduate teaching. Why should I believe that the University of Miami, UConn, TAMU, or Yeshiva are better than my school (Worcester Polytechnic Institute).</p>
<p>Stanford might actually be better than UIUC but the rank is based on the fact that they may have churned out a few less papers or they might not have recieved as many outside grants, or whatever. For undergrad, rankings mean nothing because you don’t really know what you will be doing and you can just look into the research areas, etc and see what interests you. For grad school, I would just go to the highest ranked one because the ranks for grad schools probably closely correlate with industry perspectives.</p>
<p>Why does it really matter where you went to school anyways? I understand that by going to a big name research university like UC Berkeley, you are learning from the masters, not about them. But the undergrad experience really can’t be summarized into a number. I think rankings just designed to rig admissions statistics and they are doing that quite well.</p>
<p>could somebody post the full computer engineering rankings? </p>
<p>thank you very much</p>
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<p>Yeah, if not for these rankings, when judging universities you’d just go on hearsay and clout. Sometimes those two things can be wrong. I’ve noticed that most people who weigh in with their opinion about the quality of a school on this site have no evidence or experience to back up their opinion–all they have is whether they’ve heard that so-and-so program is good from hearsay & such. I admit that I have written a few posts based on only that.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that the US News rankings are or should be the end-all be-all measure of the quality of a program, but they are an attempt.</p>
<p>could anyone post the full list please? </p>
<p>thankssss sooo muchhh…</p>
<p>This might be a silly question, but is it legal to post the full rankings? Do you not have to pay for them? If one person pays for them, can they just give them away for nothing to an undetermined number of people?</p>
<p>It seems like a slipper slope to copyright infringement at best. I’ve always wondered what the deal was with that on this site. Can somebody explain that to me?</p>
<p>I think you should take these rankings with a grain of salt. I mean yeah Stanford may not be better than UIUC but they are certainly better than, say, U of Miami. I mean 5 or so rankings probably doesn’t mean too much. But when you start getting into a differance of 10-20 rankings then you can start to legitamitely say school X is better than school Y. So these rankings have their use… just don’t be a naieve idiot about them and say the 4th ranked school is better than the 5th ranked school (no offense to the OP. Just using some numbers).</p>
<p>just my 2 cents</p>