<p>National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>
<p>I'm looking at these rankings, and I can't help but notice the acceptance rates don't correspond to the college ranking. for example, u of chicago is ranked among the best, but it's acceptance rate is 5 percent higher than USC which is ranked in the low 20s.</p>
<p>i know that college size has to do with this. But are these any other factors?</p>
<p>They have a specific rubric for scoring; percent admission is only an idea of how good a school is. If it was based solely off of admission, you’d have 2 or 3 military academies in there due to the quotas and recommendations.</p>
<p>Rankings should be based off of the quality of the teachers, the students, and what the school has to offer. Admission rate doesn’t always reflect this. Just because a ton of completely unqualified people apply to HYP just because of the well-known name, doesn’t make those who are accepted any more qualified.</p>
<p>If that’s the flaw you find in the US News rankings, you’re in trouble.</p>
<p>No; the USNWR are perfect.</p>
<p>Why the USNWR rankings are important:
School guidance counselors and parents use the USNWR rankings to help guide students on where to apply. Students must first decide the geographic location and size schools they wish to apply. They next must decide Private or Public, then University vs LAC. They then look at the SAT scores and Class rankings to further narrow down their list. If a student is not looking at the ivies the USNWR just helps them narrow down their list. Example: A student wants a private national university in the NE within 250 miles of NYC, 1350 SAT’s, top 10% of class. GC can then suggest Cornell, Tufts, Brandeis, NYU, BC, and Lehigh as schools to start their search. Nothing wrong with the USNWR.</p>
<p>That you think colleges should be ranked according to lowest acceptance rate is ridiculous. I’m getting annoyed at your posts.</p>
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Given UofC’s reputation for academic rigor the applicant pools tends to be self-selective … and makes it a bit of an admissions “bargain” for those who are interested in the school. Many schools with self-selective attributes share this situation … for example, most of the women’s colleges have higher acceptance rates that one would initially expect given the quality of their students but the women-only attribute drives away a lot of candiates.</p>
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<p>You’re an idiot if you think USC is better than Uchicago</p>
<p>what other schools have self-selective process in their admission?</p>
<p>Caltech, Case Western are ones I can think of.</p>
<p>Why should the decisions of which schools to apply to and select by a bunch of HS kids have any weight at all?? None have even been to college yet.</p>
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And how would you suggest that we measure these things (genuine question, not sarcasm)?
It would be far wiser to simply use IPEDS data (they have a College Navigator tool that makes such sorting quite simple). There would be no danger of limiting one’s choices due to the questionable methodology employed by USNWR.</p>
<p>Acceptance rates are not always a good reflection: University of Illinois- Urbana Champaign acceptance rate ( according to USNEWS) is nearly 70%, though ranked as a top 10 public university, while others with a acceptance rate fall within being a top 30-40 public university.</p>
<p>Another example, the rest of the universities University of Illinios- Urbana Champaign fall behind, all ( if not most) have a acceptance rate well below 50% and a smaller student body, which is interesting.</p>
<p>Many colleges, such as those in the Boston Area, Florida, SoCal, and other desirable locations float off of name recognition and location. U of Miami, USC, George Washington U, Northeastern U, and Boston U, among others, are prime examples. </p>
<p>However, they have used tis popularity to build themselves into respectable universities in their own rights.</p>
<p>Look at the difference in scores for all applicants to USC versus those admitted and those who enroll. Seems USC attracts applications from many who really do not have much of a chance at being admitted.</p>
<p>2009 - 2010</p>
<p>Fall Applicants
35,753
GPA 3.5
CR 550 – 680
Math 580 – 720
Writing 560 – 690
SAT 1710 – 2070
ACT 25 – 31</p>
<p>Fall Admits
8,724
24% admitted
GPA 3.8
CR 630 – 730
Math 670 – 770
Writing 650 – 740
SAT 1990 – 2210
ACT 30 – 33</p>
<p>Fall Enrolls
2,869
33% yield
GPA 3.7
CR 620 – 710
Math 650 – 740
Writing 640 – 730
SAT 1930 – 2150
ACT 29 – 32</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2009.pdf</a></p>
<p>USNWR rankings are used to sell magazines and make $$$. Any attempt to explain it otherwise is foolishness.</p>