<p>When do you guys expect the new rankings to be released and where should we rank?</p>
<p>Lower than Harvard and Princeton, because US News doesn't know anything about <em>real</em> education.</p>
<p>Yeah, what kates1422 said!... wait a second, no! US News rated my old school 25th in the nation. So I gotta side with em this time.</p>
<p>when does it come out?</p>
<p>I am not trying to be indignant about any kind of rankings, but what you really should look at is academic repuatation and Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford and MIT are the only schools with 4.9's in saying how prestigious a school is. When people talk about the biggest name schools, they give acronyms like HYP or HYPSM on this board, and elsewhere, these five schools are considred tops. Penn and Duke are always getting ranked high, although their reputations aren't as good as MIT's. Also the standardized text scores give an indication of the intelligence of the students.</p>
<p>I think the U.S. News rankings are bull. Half of the method in which they are determined take things like alumni donations and graduation rate into account. There is no way UPenn and Duke are at the level of HYPSMC. Good students do notnecessarily mean a good education.</p>
<p>The important thing is that when you tell people you are from MSHYP(notice the order), a lot of them will jump(well, most people). If you tell people you are from DUKE, they are like, that's great.</p>
<p>Yeah that's absolutely right sagar..</p>
<p>USNWR ranking is a big contributing factor to the current unprecedented stress level surrounding college admissions. Said my boss in a recent interview:</p>
<p>"I honestly think that all of us - parents and universities alike - have to think about the kind of pressure we are putting on this generation of students. Is it appropriate for us to ask them to be so perfect... just so that we can feel better about ourselves as parents or about our ranking in the USNWR? We need to all begin to call for balance here."</p>
<p>Along these lines, unwarranted "faith" in USNWR rankings causes students to not consider some phenomenal schools that might (YIKES!) not fall in the top ten. In many cases, some of these schools would actually be much better matches than MSHYP, and yet they're discounted as inferior simply because of USNWR rankings.</p>
<p>Alas.</p>
<p>Ben, did he actually put MSHYP in that order?</p>
<p>You mean my boss? No, her quote ended before that part. I put them in that order (quoting the above post). :)</p>
<p>sleepybunny: I believe the rankings should be available online this Friday, August 19th. The print version's available on Tuesday, August 23rd.</p>
<p>Rankings will look like this"</p>
<p>1: Harvard
2: Yale
3: Pton/Penn
4: Duke/Stanford
5: MIT/CalTech
6: Columbia/Brown
7: Nwu/WSTL/Dmouth
8:Cornell/Chicago
9: Georgetown/JHU
10:Emory/Rice
11:UCB/Vanderbilt
12UM/CMU
13UVA/UCLA
14 Tuft/NYU/USC/Tulane/CWRU/UNC
15 UWA/UIUC/UWis/Uni Rochestor
16 Uni of Pitt/Uni of Minn/OSU/UT Austin
17: UF/Lehigh/RPI/UCSD/UCSB</p>
<p>No, they will not.</p>
<p>yeah what about umich?</p>
<p>Um... how did DUKE get above MIT?</p>
<p>U Mich Is There 12</p>
<p>Duke is above MIT right now in the current rankings. Penn is ranked higher too. If you ask me, the rankings are garbage. Duke and Penn shouldn't be ranked above MIT and Caltech.</p>
<p>oh ben, you placed it as MSHYP? Why? =)</p>
<p>I was just quoting Sagar's post (above mine). But putting MIT first is fitting, methinks. :)</p>