US NEWS Ranking, A few surprises

All the schools publish their student profiles. However, there is no student profile for UChicago. The devil is in the detail.

This self-selected sample can represent the full student body??

So if UChicago is 100% ED, you can easily calculate its real yield. They left out EDs numbers. The talk is about nothing.

If you think you understand US News’s formula, read https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/ , a lot of details have been left out but give you the impression that it is legitimate. BTW, since schools submit their own data, I would like to see the data. Where is the data? WSJ/THE uses public data you can easily access and no equations are secret. Maybe that is the difference between how business is conducted in England and how it is conducted in America.

UChicago should be proud of its ranking in THE World University Rankings 2018. No dispute there. It is all about research papers. Check out its ranking methodology.

“So if UChicago is 100% ED, you can easily calculate its real yield. They left out EDs numbers. The talk is about nothing.”

If you wonder the “real” yield check its last yield prior to introducing ED. With no restrictive early action, its yield was already very respectable- more than 60 and admit rate around 8.

@ccdad99 :

Is that another rumor? Please provide an official link for verification.

@nrtlax33 what is your purpose? I just skimmed through your posts (at least the first three pages) and it appears that UChicago spurned you as a lover?

Usually U of Chicago spurns children, who’s parents whine on College Confidential forevermore! But sometimes people really are whining about 30 year old reject letters too.

@nrtlax33
Check this out. Class of 2020 was the last class without ED

https://ivyleagueprep.com/university-of-chicago/

@Coloradomama : In case you don’t know, UChicago does not have a good engineering school. Check out my previous posts and you will know that I have hinted where I went for school. UChicago is not even on the top 10 list.

@ccdad99 : That is what I call “rumor”.

Class of 2020 yield rates

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1959573-usnews-top-20-national-universities-yield-rates-class-of-2020.html

“UChicago does not have a good engineering school”

UChicago actually doesn’t have an engineering school at all. Starting two years ago, it began to offer a single degree in engineering - molecular engineering. The statement and implied slur about lack of a “good” engineering school is as accurate as all nrtlax’s statements about the college.

@nrtlax33. I am very familiar with U of Chicago. It offers the Chicago Core, and I have my sister’s books as
I missed a lot of that at MIT! Western Civilization is fantastic at U of Chicago as is the physics department.
I have visited the school many times, and love the gargoyles. !!! I used to have the maroon sweat shirt with the gargoyles on it, it finally wore out as Sis went there in the 1980s. I love the essays U of Chicago used to ask that were math related, so X=Y, explain, sort of thing. Really tickled me, but I never applied to U of C.

I’m still trying to figure out @nrtlax33 's motive?

1> Is it out of envy that this amount of hate is coming from?
2> Does UChicago hurt people?
3> Did UChicago damage your family in some way?

I prefer to talk about the positives of a school then to attack its rival institutions? UChicago is a great school. Stanford is a great school. Harvard is a great School. Etc. Etc. You have no skin in the game. You are not a student. You don’t have children who are students. You’ve visited and didn’t like it. Your child visited or considered it and didn’t like it enough to apply. Leave it there. My son and I visited Williams and really didn’t like it. Plenty of people do. That’s why we all get to make choices. But this vendetta against one of the most well respected (not even considering rankings) educational institutions makes very little sense to me.

@nrtlax33
“That is what I call rumor”

It is funny to hear that from somebody who treats animated satirical pieces on youtube as documentary.

Since you linked many The Chicago Maroon articles in your previous posts, I gather that you take it as a credible source. Here is a link with the exact same numbers on Class of 2020 admission statistics

https://www.chicagomaroon.com/2016/05/31/university-admits-record-low-7-9-percent-to-class-of-2020/

@nrtlax33 I think U of Chicago is very popular school with intellectual kids who want to study law, business, economics, physics, math etc. Its a fantastic school, and I think the ranks will not change their popularity. Also President Obama put the school on the map a little bit, for those that were not in the know. U of C did not offer a YEAR BOOK in the 1980s and no sports. Today, its a lot more Ivy League like I would say. They even offer sports summer camps for division 3 hopefuls. They like pure intellectual kiddos. Its a fit for a real English nerd, but its also a fit for budding scientists, for MBA hopefuls, MD hopefuls, law degree hopefuls. You will learn to read and write if you can get into U of Chicago. Its an incredible education, very tough Core, much better than Columbia Core, IMO.

Speaking of USNews rankings and selectivity, this year’s rankings are the only ones that would factor in Chicago’s selectivity after the introduction of ED. USnews numbers are based on the previous application cycle, ie one year behind. We all know this year’s rankings do not include selectivity. All previous years were based on Chicago’s selectivity in a non ED era.

What happened to focusing on the UC’s and CA? =))

UC or U of C
Close enough

“What happened to focusing on the UC’s and CA?”

That thread went on forever in the past and was about 90 pages long =))

"What happened to focusing on the UC’s and CA? "

The majority of people were bored to death so slowed down posting, leaving the UC/CA peeps to fight to the death. Once the UC/CA peeps killed each other off in a Thunder Dome type battle, then the few wandering survivors took over the discussion. Unfortunately, among the survivors was a person who just can’t quit UChicago so…

Don’t worry, all the people who don’t care about UChicago one way or the other have now been bored to death, the UChicago Thunder Dome Battle will be over and wandering survivors will choose some other college to tear apart.

Yeah, lets talk about Brown…

I’ve got to do some heavy Google searching to find every little tidbit of negativity that even mentions that school. (For all the Brown fans, I’m really just kidding, I actually like Brown too).

@ccdad99: Thank you for the link. We don’t do ED at all. (ED1/ED2 is even worse than ED.)

@milee30 : I was trying to be funny about the engineering school. :smiley:

@Coloradomama @BrianBoiler : I love your posts. I really have no skin in the game. Since UChicago lovers start warning potential applicants that it is not for everyone, I will rest my case. I am just doing public service to reduce the number of students there seeking mental health help. I really think people need to pay attention to their own/their child’s mental health instead of chasing prestige and ranking. Happiness is priceless.