US News & World Report Ranking Observations

<p>Here's one that I initially have:</p>

<p>4 years ago - Northeastern #96
Today - Northeastern #54</p>

<p>Talk about increasing the value of your degree!</p>

<p>Impressive.</p>

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<p>Impressive indeed!! As a matter of fact, NEU is the onlly school tied with tOSU this year, but I believe it is #56 instead of #54. Its high school counselor ranking has vastly improved as well over the years - currently also tied with Ohio State with the score of 4.1 out of 5. I shall also compare the overall “Undergraduate Academic Reputation Index” between the two schools once I get a hold of the magazine!! :)</p>

<p>[High</a> School Counselor Rankings | Rankings | Top National Universities | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor/page+2]High”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor/page+2)</p>

<p>Allegheny College number one up and coming lac, hendrix # 3 love both! muhlenberg should be on that list too!</p>

<p>I would choose any of those three over willaims, amherst or middlebury.</p>

<p>swathmore is numero uno and haverford should be tied with them (IMO).</p>

<p>Sparkeye, I don’t think Northeastern goes by the NEU moniker anymore, but I’d be curious to see the admission stats between Northeastern and Ohio St. I’d imagine that Northeastern is more selective, but I could be wrong on that. </p>

<p>Regardless, that is quite the jump in recent years for Northeastern.</p>

<p>Northeastern has moved from 96 to 80 to 69 to 62 to 56. The $60 million gift received today to name their business school is impressive too.</p>

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<p>@informative,</p>

<p>Well, I am not certain if selectivity would be an accurate indicator in comparing the academic of NEU and tOSU. For beginners, tOSU is the flagship university for the state of Ohio and as such, it offers well over 12,000 courses and nearly 200 majors to choose from, whereas NEU is a private school with roughly 1/3 of overall student body compared to Ohio State. Furthermore, NEU has long been a member of Common App, whereas tOSU has just joined this year. The truth is, I doubt many academics in the country would deem NEU as more prestigious than Ohio State. However, I do give credit when credit is due, especially when it comes to NEU’s Co-op program which is certainly note worthy. Nonetheless, I could easily have picked many many more top programs at tOSU that are just as stellar if not more distinguish both domestically or internationally. Moreover, as an Up-and-Coming private college, NEU is severely lacking in terms of endowment (currently 1/4 of the public tOSU, not counting Ohio State’s ongoing $2.5 billion fundraising campaign) and resources imho. </p>

<p>In short, I was just being nice in acknowledging NEU’s improvement over the years based on USNWR ranking / Methodology. Even though the truth of the matter is, besides selectivity and class size, NEU is still light years behind in comparing with Ohio State’s academic prowess in undergrad, graduate, faculty, facility, research, resource…, etc. </p>

<p>P.S. Currently, NEU is about 10 points behind tOSU in terms of “Undergraduate Academic Reputation Index Score” in the eyes of 2,000 academics across the nation who participated in USNWR’s ranking. Last but not least, there is only one “NU” in my book and that spot is always reserved for Northwestern. :)</p>

<p>RPI moved up 9 spots!! lol</p>

<p>Florida also moved up 4 spots!!</p>

<p>Miami (the U) dropped 6 spots!! </p>

<p>Washington also dropped 4 spots…</p>

<p>The peer review score is higher at Ohio State. The incoming SAT scores at Northeastern are approaching 200 points higher (and growing) than OSU. They are tied in the rankings so obviously have different strengths and weaknesses. A lot of those strengths and weaknesses happen to be the same as public v private schools (more majors v smaller class size for example).</p>

<p>On a sidenote, Sparkeye you really do not need to be so negative on these boards. “You were being nice” is needlessly condescending. You have graduated from a fine institution and should have a lot of insight for young adults who are going through the application and selection process. There is no need to frankly be a bully. You incessantly post about OSU in every thread, let those facts speak for the school instead of putting other schools down. I am sure that ends up having the opposite of your intended effect.</p>

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<p>@swimchris,</p>

<p>My apologies if I made you feel that way! Nonetheless, you are taking me the wrong way! This is not about NEU vs tOSU in this year’s ranking. Rather, as a former Bostonian myself, I’ve never really liked NEU and its campus; Still, I agreed with others that the school is on the rise academically based on USNWR metrics this year and gave my sincere “Impressive Indeed” congrats comment above as I should. It was not until ‘informative’ trying to use ‘selectivity’ as a major factor in determining the academic quality between tOSU and NEU did I weight in with my “negative” thoughts. Please do not take my words out of the context.</p>

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<p>I’ve never stated that NEU is less selective than tOSU, but I will strongly disagree with the ‘growing’ gap between the two schools in terms of selectivity as Ohio State just joined Common App this year - expecting a 25% application jump this year alone!</p>

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<p>First off, I do not get paid for doing this. I could just have been equally as “pushy” on my other alma maters in this board but I don’t. Why Ohio State in particular? Because I truly want the best for these young people based on my limited knowledge about college admission, and they can certainly make their own decision based on the facts. I repeat for the “N” times that it is difficult if not impossible for find a better learning environment in terms of academic quality, affordability and urban living imho. Besides the across the boards top academic ratings on almost all disciplines, the urban environment with state-of-the-art facilities across the campus and $48,000 merit scholarship if the prospective student has at least 28 on ACT or 1260 on SAT. There is none like it amongst America Public Higher Learning Institution at present (not counting more than half-million alumni connection worldwide). Though certainly subjective because I am an Alum, I simply want the best for these kids, and have received countless positive feedbacks over the years here in CC. Above all, if anyone here feels that I’ve gone overboard in defending tOSU vs NEU academically, I am very sorry to have hurt your feelings, period.</p>

<p>P.S. For whatever is worth, know that I do not simply copy and paste tOSU suggestion to every thread that I see! As frequent as I do so here (very selective in fact), it is because I truly believe that Ohio State would be one of the best options for the OPs if not best values based on numerical facts, be it ratings or costs.</p>

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<p>NORTHEASTERN
University rankings
National
Forbes Unranked
U.S. News & World Report 56
Washington Monthly 237</p>

<p>Global
ARWU 301-400
QS Unranked
Times Unranked</p>

<p>OHIO STATE
University rankings
National
Forbes 188
U.S. News & World Report 56
Washington Monthly 37</p>

<p>Global
ARWU 62
QS 105
Times 57</p>

<p>*I think I should have responded better instead of using the word “light years,” which certainly could be interpreted as condescending also, my apologies.</p>

<p>I don’t think anyone is saying OSU is a bad school, Sparkeye, they’re just saying it is what it is. It’s a large public school in Ohio that has some decent science and graduate programs. I don’t think there is any reason to take offense to the fact that it is a state school and therefore easy to get into and a decent safety for most kids. I wouldn’t get all up in arms over these things. You guys have a great football program right?</p>

<p>Likewise, I am not saying NEU is a bad private school either, but it is certainly no USC. TOSU is a “decent” public school alright, but certainly not a safety for most kids. The national ave for ACT score is 21.1 this year and ave ACT for tOSU is over 28. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2012/trends.html[/url]”>http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2012/trends.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Thanks for the notice, informative! We also have a great basketball program - Final Four last season. In fact, we were also ranked second in the nation behind only Stanford in “Directors’ Cup” last year which includes most of the Olympic sports.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2011/06/ohio-state-finishes-second-in-the-directors-cup.php[/url]”>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2011/06/ohio-state-finishes-second-in-the-directors-cup.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ha. I knew I had heard that somewhere. Good luck with football this year.</p>

<p>^^ Thanks, informative!! :)</p>

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<p>Go Bucks!! lol</p>

<p>Can someone post the Counselor rankings please?</p>

<p>^^</p>

<p>[High</a> School Counselor Rankings | Rankings | Top National Universities | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor]High”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor)</p>

<p>How are high school guidance counselors supposed to know which undergrad institutions offers “the best educational experience” to their students? Do they keep in touch with these “their students” and ask a lot of questions about life at the U.? </p>

<p>I attended one of these USNews silver-medal high schools so, presumeably, my guidance counselor was among those polled. But I never said another word to her once I left the place, and I’m certain my experience isn’t atypical. So ***?</p>

<p>Army, Air Force, Navy service academies are among the nation’s four top LACs, according to the nation’s guidance counselors. (Harvey Mudd is the civilian representative.)</p>

<p>Interesting!</p>

<p>Indiana University at Bloomington also dropped 8 spots this year… =.="</p>