<li><p>HYPMCS Vs. Oxbridge</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia Penn Chicago Vs. LSE Imperial</p></li>
<li><p>Dartmouth Brown Cornell Vs. UCL Warwick</p></li>
<li><p>Gtown Northwestern JH Vs. Bristol Durham Nottingham Bath</p></li>
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<p>So... ???</p>
<p>"so" implies acceptance.</p>
<p>which shouldn't be the case, the original post/'ranking' is a pile of dung.</p>
<p>^I don't get the point either <a href="mailto:b@rium">b@rium</a>. Anyways, I can't see how Duke and UC Berkeley aren't on the list while Gtown is (don't get me wrong, Gtown is probably one of the best in polisci/IR</p>
<p>I was wondering what point the OP was trying to make...</p>
<p>Sorry guys. I did not make my point clear. I am a student considering to apply for both the US and UK unis. And I was curious which one to go if I was accepted to some of those unis.</p>
<p>College education is very different in the UK versus the US.</p>
<p>Are you sure of your major and happy to study only that for 3 years? Sure you won't want to switch? Are you focussed? If so, go to the UK.</p>
<p>Do you want a liberal arts education where you can switch majors? If so, go to the US.</p>
<p>Obviously this is looking at it from a purely educational point of view, not taking into account costs, cultural preferences, the weather etc etc. But if you are accepted to both, the education is the important thing. Otherwise you will only be unhappy and do poorly.</p>
<p>Do you like Europe/England or the US better?</p>
<p>the comparison is wrong.. dartmouth>>>>>>>warwick..</p>
<p>the uk university system is very top heavy.</p>
<p>if you get into oxbridge, great. if you don't... at every other 'tier' you listed, the us schools are better than their uk 'equivalents'.</p>
<p>Hi, serf. I wonder why you saying that the UK uni system is very top heavy. I heard of that UCL receives more funds from the government than Oxbridge and many of Unis include LSE imperial Warwick are very presitgious in overseas (although not in the US) and the ranking in OP (?? is it a ranking?) is what I refer to one of my father's friend, a professor who's been in both the UK and US.</p>
<p>Cupcake, thanks for the advice. I am considering to study Math or Econ and then get a job in an IB.</p>
<p>yeah especially LSE is considered to be pretty prestigious in Asia</p>
<p>serf- what do you mean by 'top heavy'?</p>
<p>What are you asking, OP?</p>
<p>well, the uk government is placing more emphasis on tertiary education than any other in the world. that does not instantly translate into quality.</p>
<p>granted, they have oxbridge- worldclass schools that can match up to any. but at the other end of the spectrum, because of the aim to get 70% of graduands into universities and the resulting strain, it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to see a general decline of quality: the most egregious examples would be mickeymouse-type majors like 'golf club management' in newer universities. even without this stimulated demand, the uk system was having problems to begin with, the root cause being the structure of funding, which leads to issues with faculty retention and general quality of life. it's one of the reasons why uk universities are generally very welcoming to int'l students: unlike the fully-subsidized locals, they provide a much needed injection of income.</p>
<p>oxbridge aside (with its collegiate system, 2 to 1 tutorials, etc), are there great universities in the uk? UCL, Imperial, LSE... to mention the usual suspects, all fulfill the traditional definitions: they produce a ton of research and have immense prestige worldwide. indeed, as noted, UCL might draw more funding than oxbridge. but that doesn't directly equate to providing first-class undergraduate educations, such as how the quality of cal undergrad (reputedly) lacks behind the fantastic grad programs offered.</p>
<p>i come from a country with equal access to both country's education systems. i've heard lots of anecdotes from those in the uk (non-oxbridge) about large class sizes, poor student-teacher interaction, unintelligible lecturers, and so on.</p>
<p>of course it was a very incomplete sampling, but considering my options available, those instilled enough doubts in me to instead choose a us college with a stated dedicated towards undergrad teaching...</p>
<p>Yeah, I've heard of poor student-instructor interaction in the UK as well. But US unis also have large class sizes, don;t they? And I am quite surprised with that you are saying that lectures in the UK unis are unintelligible. That's exactly the opposite from what my friend told me. (he's been to the UK as an exchange student.) </p>
<p>How large the lectures in US colleges are?</p>
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How large the lectures in US colleges are?
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That depends mostly on which college we are talking about.</p>
<p>I am attending a small liberal arts college and my classes this semester range from 7 to 23 students. The largest lectures at my college have around 50 students.</p>
<p>But when you look at larger research universities lecture sizes will be several hundred students.</p>
<p>I chose UK schools because their admissions criteria are much more generous to smart but lazy people like myself. If I had limited myself to U.S. schools I would have been lucky to get into UC Riverside, but I still got an offer from Cambridge to study medicine.</p>
<p>getting into a UK top uni is much much much easier than getting into hypmcs, they will just look at ur a levels or your ib predicted grades, and give you a conditional offer based on that. basically, they will look at your personal statement and your predicted grades. in the case of oxford, cambridge and lse they will ask you to send in some of your courseworks, as well as being interviewed (if given a conditional offer) and taking an exam. a friend of mine was just in the top 50% of my class, he got a 39 in the IB and got an offer for imperial.</p>
<p>That is the most uninformed post I've seen concerning UK universities. For one thing, if you're applying from the US, you cannot even begin to apply to Oxbridge if any single one of your SAT scores is lower than 700!</p>
<p>If you have excellent predicted grades, an excellent personal statement, and and excellent references, then you're called in for an interview, which has nothing to do with college interviews in the US! This is where they select you! Out of 4 top students who pass the first stage, three are rejected after the interview.</p>
<p>What's so easy about this? Really... find out more before you post.</p>