<p>Brown & Cornell Vs. UCL & Warwick</p>
<p>Hey guys. I am an international student and
curious about which ones are better to get an opportunity to work for an IB in HK. I want unbiased opinions.</p>
<p>I would go for UCl simply because of its location (internships in london are golden) and increasing international reputation.</p>
<p>Brown is an ivy but probably the worst out of the 8 in terms of IB, while Warwick is simply not that popular compared to the other 3. Cornell.. well maybe.. but i’ll still go for UCL if you don mind going to either US or UK</p>
<p>PS you shouldn’t choose a school just based on IB tho</p>
<p>Cornell is a target school for top IB’s in NY, so I suppose getting into an HK IB from Cornell wouldn’t be hard.</p>
<p>I think Cornell has possibly the biggest and best reputaton of all three. If you do well there, nothing will hold you back</p>
<p>Have you even got in at all three? If yes then thats great. If not then its a moot point.</p>
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How can he have gotten in for fall 2008 and not have made this decision yet? lolax. He must be thinking ahead for fall 2009.</p>
<p>I am studying at one of the 4 unis I metioned, but thinking of applying for transfer to another one. (given that the another one seems to provide me a better opportunity)</p>
<p>They are very, very different. At the UK universities, you are admitted to a department and do little or no work except within that department. So if you were studying mathematical modeling, you would do nearly all of your work in the maths department and would get out with a BS in 3 years. Whereas both of the US universities listed are fundamentally liberal arts schools where you would get perhaps less depth, but significantly more breadth than you would at the UK universities, and it would take you 4 years.</p>
<p>Both are legitimate paths to do what you want to do. So the question is whether you are completely focused on what you want for your degree. If you are still unsure, I would take the US route. If you know it cold, I would opt for the UK. Horses for courses.</p>
<p>HK was once a British colony and British system is what’s in place in hong kong. the banking system in hk is also patterned after the brit’s and much of the people that work in the banking industry there are Brits, not americans. </p>
<p>although i would say harvard, stanford, wharton, Berkeley, MIT, yale, to name a few are huge school names in hong kong, British universities are highly regarded in hk as well. I would bet that Oxbridge and LSE are huge names in hk and are generally regarded as Berkeley’s/stanford’s/harvard’s peers. thus, if you want to get into IB - in HK – your best bets are Warwick and UCL, from among your choices. Cornell is great too but i would bet that it won’t be a popular school to get talents for IB jobs. Warwick is, by and large, an IB target school. Many of its grads work as Investment Bankers in London, major cities in Europe and Asia.</p>
<p>hey butchokoy. thanks for the answer. Does it work in the same way for branches of American IBs in HK(like Morgan Stanley and so on..)???</p>
<p>^ I would say so. </p>
<p>At JPM in HK, for example, UK uni grads outnumber US school grads. So many at JPM HK has got degrees from LSE, Warwick, Oxbridge, Imperial, Bath, Durham and Bristol.</p>
<p>^Were they recruited in the UK and got sent to HK?</p>
<p>Let me add here, that it doesn’t really matter. I work for an investment bank, albeit not in Hong Kong. We go to all of the campuses listed to recruit, we also take applications for graduate postings from universities not listed here. If the application is strong, we then evaluate the candidates ourselves, and very few candidates survive that evaluation.</p>
<p>I think the OP’s question was very, very flawed. It is like asking which high schoos should I go to if I want to get into HYMSP or into Oxbridge, and the answer of course is, IT DOESN’T REALLY MATTER AT ALL. You can go to any secondary school, and as long as you excel there, and shine on the application and at interview (which varies in importance), then you can get in.</p>
<p>The same is true of which uni should you attend if you want to do investment banking.</p>
<p>Here is one hint though. I always did better in my academic and then professional career when I was happy than when I was not. Find an institution that you would like to attend, not because of its ranking, but because being on campus in that environment makes you happy.</p>
<p>There are those who love Oxbridge and thrive there. There are others who find it a little too stuffy and conservative. When I was an undergraduate, I spent a lot of time on the Harvard campus with friends there, and I always felt that Harvard felt a little pretentious in ways in which I wasn’t completely comfortable. Curiously, when my Harvard friends visited me at MIT, where I felt completely at home, they always felt exactly the same way about MIT, as I felt about Harvard.</p>
<p>Finding an institution is always about the match between the individual and the institution. Find the university where you will be happy and thrive and go there. Then, if in 5 years you still want to do Investment Banking, then find the bank whose culture you would feel most happy in, and apply there. The culture of a Citigroup is very different to a Deutsche Bank, which is very different to Goldman Sachs, which is of course radically different from Investec. </p>
<p>Figure out the size and feel of any institution and pick one where you will thrive. Questions of status look like they should be important, but they are not.</p>