<p>So, this is seriously stressing me out...where to go??</p>
<p>I got into the combined USC Bac/MD program (+Dean's scholarship = 1/4 of tuition 8 semesters) and Johns Hopkins (biology major). If I add up all of my financial aid, USC comes out cheaper, but I heard JHU's premed is kickass.</p>
<p>USC's program, by all means. I didn't get in, but you'll realize later on how hard maintaining your GPA and applying to med school are. Plus, USC still has a very good medical school.</p>
<p>USC's program, for sure. My cousin graduated from JH's Bio-chem, got high GPAs, good score in MCAT, but didn't get in any med schools in the states. He finally got into UT in Canada. :(</p>
<p>omg how is that even a hard question for u? if i had gotten into HARVARD (or something along those lines, i didnt actually apply to harvard) i MIGHT have had a hard time choosing, but johns hopkins just doesnt compare.</p>
<p>usc is going to be sooo much more fun, sooo much more relaxed, and just sooo much better! CHOOSE USC!!</p>
<p>actually i may be biased, since im gonna be in bacc/md, so take this advise with that grain of salt. nevertheless, my statements are totally true =D choose well!</p>
<p>agreed. Go to USC bacc/md. I would pick it over JHU anyways AND its cheaper than JHU for you. Yes JHU is known for getting its students into top notch med schools if you do well there, but it is extremely hard to do well there + with the USC program, with all the extra support and opportunities you get....you CAN get into a top notch med school if you apply out after 4 years anyways....or u always have Keck, which is a pretty good med school anyways, as a backup.
....and this is coming from someone who got in but is rejecting bacc/md</p>
<p>At JH, the med school acceptance rate is high, but it is high for the wrong reasons. At JH, their premed advising committee will write you a letter of recommendation, this recommendation should hold more ground as it is from a committee. But, the committee will refuse to write letters if they deem that you don't have the stats necessary for medical school. So in essence, their acceptance rate is high because only those students who are sure to get into medical school are allowed to apply.</p>
<p>As for USC Bacc/Md, there is definitely nothing wrong with the program. Being in the program gives you many privileges not enjoyed by others at usc. Also, bacc/md students are among the top at usc, with some gaining admission to Yale, ucla, ucsf, wash u, etc.</p>
<p>hey, everyone, thanks for your input. i was wondering how important do you think this prestige business and "good environment" thing. my parents are like, at jhu, the kids are more serious so you'll learn to work even harder, etc.
i went to a pretty challenging high school, so they argue that i need to take the next challenge by going to jhu.
the other thing is going undergrad to usc vs undergrad at jhu</p>
<p>but i'm assuming there are also serious students in usc, and usc bacc/md will give provide me opportunities/challenges if i look for them
in terms of prestige, i'm also thinking that usc has a lot to be proud for and famous for, and this apply out to other med schools seems like i can work to get the prestige stuff for med school instead of undergrad</p>
<p>my other question is about research,
jhu is famous for research and contacts in the research field,
but does usc and usc bacc/md provide you similar opportunities?</p>
<p>dude, there is NOTHING jhu can offer you that usc cant except the name, and usc is working up on that big time too, so in like 5 years the degree at usc will mean a LOT more than you think it does right now.</p>
<p>if ur bmd at usc, there is a TON of research opportunities, i mean ur in the heart of LA, i mean, how can you not?</p>
<p>and if you do go to jhu, you will be seriously really stressed out to get into a good med school. if you dont work your as* off, you might not even be able to get in a med school of usc's quality.</p>
<p>and you talk about undergrad experiences. is that even a question? if ur looking for a good experience in a fun place with great weather, then there's your answer. if you want a boring, dreary place with a overhyped name, then again, there's your answer. you want a place where you can learn more, then think of it this way: at jhu the better professors will be more focused on graduate schools than the undergrads, because theres more $$ there. at usc, i'd say the undergrad is more focused on, esp. if ur doing medicine. the med school isnt even on the same campus.</p>
<p>and if at the end of it, you decide u hate use (highly unlikely, but hypothetically), you can always apply out, and even if you dont make it anywhere, you still have that one backup, one that isnt too shabby either</p>
<p>ps. this is coming from someone who really wanted to go to johns hopkins for the longest time, and then realized that it was waay overhyped and pretentious, and wouldnt really offer a good education or experience, so i do see both sides of the coin, even if i am slightly biased ^_^</p>
<p>USC may be the better choice. JHU's undergraduate isn't as good as its graduate schools. It's probably true that JHU's premed is hyped because of its medical school.</p>
<p>Yeah, just to add, JHU was sort of a dream school for me throughout my application process. (I only started really researching schools after I sent out my application)</p>
<p>JHU's undergrad is extremely overhyped. The only thing that carries them are the countless intelligent undergrads that fall into this bait every year.</p>
<p>Also, at USC, for bacc/md's research isn't just suggested, its required. Plus, as a bacc/md you are first in line for any opportunity that usc has to offer.</p>
<p>Actually, I don't think "lab" research is required for all those reading this. One of the 4th years was saying if lab research is not your thing, you don't have to step into one for 8 years, but there are other forms of research that you can participate in. But, If you want to perform great research, being in bacc/md puts you ahead of countless other premeds to perform some of the most cutting edge research at the university, whereas at Johns Hopkins you are competing with so many other crazy competitive premeds who want great research opps.</p>
<p>My son was accepted to both programs also. After researching them both (very thoroughly!!!), it was not a hard decision at all - USC Bacc/MD!!!!! USC truly is an up and coming school, both in undergrad and in med school. I think you will have many more opportunities to become involved in research. I also believe it is a much more supportive environment and your 4 years will be enjoyable rather than completely stressed out. Med school is a long road - why stress yourself out in the first 4 years. Also, like others have said, if you choose JHU, you may not even get into a med school as good as Keck. But if you choose USC you are guaranteed at least that.</p>