Usc marshall business .vs. Georgetown mcdonough???

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<p>Hi,
I have been admitted to USC's Marshall School of Business and Georgetown's McDonough school of Business.
I just don't know which one to choose! :S</p>

<p>Can anyone give me their opinion on where to go? What decision would you make?
I know it is ultimately up to me but I'm really on the fence about this.</p>

<p>By the way, I live in London, England.</p>

<p>My problem:
USC is my dream school. I just think I would have the greatest time there.
But.. I also am pretty sure I would have a great time at Georgetown (just maybe not as great)</p>

<p>Can I really choose USC over Georgetown?
In terms of Business, Marshall is generally ranked higher BUT I don't know enough about California to limit my future career possibilities to the West Coast.</p>

<p>I can imagine myself working in NYC after college or I may even come back to London (I'm not sure what will happen!).</p>

<p>Georgetown - more difficult to get in to. the name recognition over USC. Is it foolish to turn it down?</p>

<p>Or is USC recognised all over the states? I know its a GREAT school but I'm just afraid its undervalued.
And does USC have any international recognition in Europe? I know it has great connections with Asia.</p>

<p>Thank you everyone for your help!</p>

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<p>Both are great business schools with tons of business related activities to get involved with on campus. I applied to both as well and if I didn’t already know I want to live/work on the west coast after graduation then I would have a hard time deciding just like you. Georgetown will in fact have better recruiting and ties to DC/NY/London than USC will just because of its location. Perhaps if you can afford it, come tour LA to see if you like the west coast enough to come out this way?</p>

<p>It is also worth mentioning USC does have active alumni groups in new york, dc, and london. If you look at alumni chapters, it is heavily concentrated on the west coast of the states vs. International: [International</a> Clubs | USC Alumni Association](<a href=“http://alumni.usc.edu/groups/international/]International”>http://alumni.usc.edu/groups/international/)</p>

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<p>My heart is with USC. I love the idea of southern california, its just so different to here in London and sunshine just generally makes me a happier person (I am OBSESSED with weather).</p>

<p>I also see Georgetown to possibly have a more cookie-cutter approach to teaching the students how to be perfect for I-Banking. I see myself being a bit more creative with business and possibly going in to entertainment business, but then again I am not sure what I will want in 4 years.</p>

<p>I’m making a trip next week to see both USC and Georgetown’s full day events so hopefully I will like one place significantly better than the other!</p>

<p>BUT… I just can’t stop thinking about my future past college. I have no idea what I will be doing but I want to be prepared for whatever it is. I want to be able to come back to London if I want to come back to London. Working in NY after college is a very realistic outcome as well… I just hope Marshall is respected over there…?</p>

<p>Another thing… Georgetown is REALLY hard to get in to… Do you think it would be foolish to turn down such a place for another college that isn’t as difficult to get in to?</p>

<p>Thanks for your help.</p>

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<p>At certain points I have dreamed about working in London as well (have an ex-gf there who works in finance). From everything that I have read, most of the firms that recruit at USC will recruit for west coast offices. You’d have to be more pro-active about seeking employment if you wanted to head to the east coast or UK post-grad but it is by no means impossible to do so. If you are interested in entertainment/business then USC would be the school for you over Gtown.</p>

<p>Bottom line though, both schools are pretty different in their culture/environment and I’m sure after you visit both that you’ll know which one gets you more excited.</p>

<p>Being that I am from Seattle(identical weather to London), I can understand why you’d want to move away which is the same reason I moved to Las Vegas. Variety is the spice of life and it is a good thing to experience living elsewhere in the world.</p>

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<p>James,
You are in England. Perhaps YOU may not have heard as much about USC, but we have a thriving alumni club in London. Individuals in the club hold positions in many of the Fortune 500 companies that have branches in the metro London area or are native Brits.</p>

<p>In the rankings of national universities in the U.S. there is no enormous chasm of prestige of peer assessment between the two universities. </p>

<p>Peer assessment by other university administrators:</p>

<p>Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.9 That is practically even.</p>

<p>Faculty resources </p>

<p>Georgetown 43rd
USC 27th Higher is better</p>

<p>Faculty student ratio </p>

<p>Georgetown 1/11
USC 1/9</p>

<p>Acceptance rate</p>

<p>Georgetown 19%
USC 21.9% </p>

<p>Alumni giving rank</p>

<p>Georgetown 29th
USC 7th</p>

<p>SC also has a higher percentage of full time faculty.</p>

<p>When choosing a business school you should also think about your specialty there such as accounting, international business, finance, etc. In the next post I will give some of those rankings.</p>

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<p>This evening I researched the latest rankings of USC Marshall and Georgetown’s business school, undergraduate.</p>

<p>This is what I found:</p>

<p>Marshall is ranked in the U.S. top ten undergraduate business schools. Georgetown is not in the top ten.</p>

<p>I searched every specialty ranked by U.S. News. There was only one out of all the specialties where Georgetown had a top ten ranking. I will indicate that below.</p>

<p>Here are rankings by U.S. News for Marshall:</p>

<p>There was not 1, not 1, specialty where Georgetown had a higher ranking than SC.</p>

<p>International Business</p>

<p>USC 5th
GT 6th That is the only specialty GT had in the top ten</p>

<p>Accounting</p>

<p>USC 5th</p>

<p>Entrepreneurship</p>

<p>USC 3rd</p>

<p>Marketing</p>

<p>USC 10th</p>

<p>Real Estate</p>

<p>USC 6th</p>

<p>Incidentally, Princeton Review ranked SC at 98% for selectivity.</p>

<p>Marshall’s global emphasis is renowned. The list of famous Marshall alumni is long and available by a Bing search. There is a joint Business/Cinematic Arts degree that may be of interest to you. For more info: [USC</a> Marshall](<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu%5DUSC”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu) . In the U.S. there is a toll free number to call 800 352 5719.</p>

<p>In my opinion SC’s Marshall is much higher ranked than Georgetown, has smaller classes, is better known in Asia, far more, has many ranked specialties, has recently added even more faculty stars and offers study abroad in many countries. The LINC program offers foreign travel for freshmen, which is unique to Marshall. Also, there is great mentoring with alumni. </p>

<p>You have some time before deciding. Perhaps you could contact the London Alumni Club and meet with an alumnus from Marshall.</p>

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<p>jamesengland,</p>

<p>Time to revisit why was USC your dream school, and has that changed? If you are so sure about working in NY, why did you choose USC at the first place? Admission to Georgetown gives you a second thought. Is that mostly because it is hard to get into there? I don’t think a Georgetown degree will give that much advantage in getting into I-banking. </p>

<p>I had lived around Georgetown campus for about 2 months. The school is nice, but is too small and not exciting to my taste. You sound like an adventurous type; you really should come out to LA, to experience the West and Pacific Rim. You may not have this kind of opportunity later, especially when you are young. </p>

<p>One thing I’d like to point out (risk of being shallow) is the number of beautiful girls i saw at Georgetown in two months is less than what i saw when sitting by Tutor Hall Cafe at USC for two days. And Tutor Hall is not exactly comparable to other parts of USC campus when talking about girls (Sorry engineering majors). You can find out whether this is true or not when you visit.</p>

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<p>Plus, west coast chicks dig guys with British accents, no joke. You can’t get more sexier than having a British accent in California.</p>

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<p>WOW! Thank you everyone for all this help!</p>

<p>Kalukai:
I agree, it would be such a great experience to live somewhere completely different to where I am accustomed. </p>

<p>Georgia Girl:
GREAT post! Thank you for doing all that research.
It really does seem that Marshall is recognised to be a better school than McDonough. Plus… Great idea to contact the London Alumni Club.
Isn’t the joint Business/Cinematic Arts degree pretty selective? Do I have to have had experience with film in the past? coz I have heard that the Cinematic Arts school is almost as hard as Harvard to get in to…</p>

<p>"Peer assessment by other university administrators:</p>

<p>Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.9 That is practically even."
What does that mean?</p>

<p>Thanks again.</p>

<p>QW553:
I also agree… both my bro’s went to Georgetown. One went to the Business School (DOING VERY WELL IN LONDON ATM) and my other one didn’t like it so much.
I feel that USC would just be an all-round more exciting, adventurous experience. I kinda like the idea of a big school. I’ve never been to one. And it would give me the opportunity to meet ALL different types of people. That’s a learning experience in itself!</p>

<p>QW553 & MagicalMalik:
When I went to the USC campus, I couldn’t remember ONE unattractive girl. It was AMAZING. My family is American so I already know how great it is to have a British accent over there!</p>

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<p>Actually I’m pretty sure the SCA school harder to get into than Harvard. Also, well, yeah the business/SCA degree is selective but not SCA selective. You don’t take the film production, screen writing, etc. classes that the Film majors do. You take business classes that specifically pertain to business in the entertainment industry. Here’s a link to the course list:</p>

<p>[USC</a> Catalogue: The Schools: USC Marshall School of Business: Undergraduate Degrees](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/dept/publications/cat2008/schools/business/undergraduate.html#cinema]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/dept/publications/cat2008/schools/business/undergraduate.html#cinema)</p>

<p>And what do you mean you’re American? I thought you were a Brit? Or did your parents move to London from America and you’re an American who has happened to develop a British accent?</p>

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<p>my parents moved to London 26 years ago. I am a Brit but my family is American. I go over to the states every summer. I consider myself a Brit and I’m very much a Londoner.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info on the dual degree course. It sounds very cool. I hope I don’t have to make my mind up on that major straight away as I would like to experiment a bit and truly discover what I love the most.</p>

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<p>Jamesengland, I applied to the BCA joint degree, and unfortunately you are required to start it the moment you start school because it’s very quantitative. There’s a four year plan and everything. You can find the course map and other info here:
[USC</a> Marshall Course Map](<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/advising/bca/course-map.htm]USC”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/advising/bca/course-map.htm)</p>

<p>Also, the deadline was a few days ago (April 2) but I’m sure they’ll still accept your application. You can find even more information on the program and an application here:
[USC</a> Marshall Degree Program Joint Programs](<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/degrees/joint-programs.htm]USC”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/degrees/joint-programs.htm)</p>

<p>If you do go to USC, definitely consider the program because it’s unique to the school and from what I hear, really great. All the people currently in it have good things to say about it.</p>

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<p>Peer assessment ranking is by other college administrators in the U.S. Harvard has a peer assessment ranking of 4.9 our of 5.0. Not one university received a 5.0. </p>

<p>It is just a ranking system with 5.0 being the top and then the numbers descend from there. Out of the top 50 national universities the numbers go to Univ. of Miami at 3.1.</p>

<p>So much of college selection is about fit. Some students want a tiny college out in the country, others prefer an urban university with a city “vibe”. You must decide where is the best “fit” for you and the best match financially.</p>

<p>Incidentally, one of my brothers has a degree from Georgetown and also attended USC. He considers himself a Trojan through and through.</p>

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<p>I didn’t realize that couldn’t transfer to the program. That sucks. :(</p>

<p>jamesengland, I think it’s clear that you’re a perfect fit for USC. Become a Trojan bro.</p>