Usc or Ucla

<p>I'm interested in IR, business, government, that type of thing.
What are the pros and cons of USC and UCLA and why should I pick one over the other. I am positive that I can get into both, possibly with scholarships.</p>

<p>Are you in-state? Is money an issue?</p>

<p>Personally, if all things are equal I would pick USC. I think large public schools are a little overrated for undergrad (USC would have more geographic diversity, smaller classes, etc).</p>

<p>if your instate, and money is an issue... then UCLA hands down</p>

<p>if you are oos, then Id pick USC</p>

<p>I'm from Oklahoma and I'm middle class, so money is a big issue.</p>

<p>Then UCLA will be a problem. They give almost no aid to OOS students. USC will probably be a good bet for merit aid if you have high stats. Automatic half-tuition scholarship for NMSF.</p>

<p>If your interested in Business, I assume you already know that USC has a undergrad business program (Marshall), and UCLA does not.</p>

<p>Being an OOS applicant, you might want to consider whether you would really want to go to UCLA, which is ~95% CA students. USC is roughly 50% OOS. USC is generally pretty generous w/ financial aid.</p>

<p>USC gives a big payoff to NMF</p>

<p>Why does everyone on this thread use "your" as a contraction for "you are"? The correct spelling is "you're". I hope you don't make this mistake in your college essays. Spellchecker won't catch it.</p>

<p>But, I agree with the posters that USC has more going for it than UCLA. The only thing UCLA has better is the neighborhood and the in-state cost.</p>

<p>in-state: UCLA hands down.
out-of-state: Still UCLA.</p>

<p>UCLA is a stronger school even in academics. If you are in-state, then, really, the only reason you might choose USC over UCLA is if you care about your class sizes, but otherwise, UCLA tops USC in basically everything: more top 10 academic programs, social life in surrounding area, better location and campus by far.</p>

<p>I heard the USC campus was beautiful though.</p>

<p>ricegal-- get over yourself</p>

<p>and yes shirley, USC's campus is beautiful</p>

<p>IR and business... AND you're OOS. </p>

<p>I'd pick USC. FOR SURE.</p>

<p>O B J E C T I V E D A T A </p>

<p>UNDERGRADUATE ENROLLMENT<br>
UCLA 25432 USC 16,729</p>

<p>% AND # OF STUDENTS WHO ARE IN-STATE
UCLA 23,652 (93%) USC 8866 (53%)</p>

<p>% OF FEMALE STUDENTS<br>
UCLA 59% USC 52%</p>

<p>% OF WHITE/NON-HISPANIC STUDENTS<br>
UCLA 33% USC 47%</p>

<p>% FROM PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS<br>
UCLA 80% USC 60%</p>

<p>% OF STUDENTS IN GREEK LIFE (Male & Female)
UCLA 13%/13% USC 16%/19%</p>

<p>TOP MAJORS AT EACH SCHOOL (acc to collegeboard.com)
UCLA 27% Social Sciences, 13% Biology, 13% Psychology, 8% Engineering, 8% History, 7% English, 7% Visual & Performing Arts, 5% Interdisciplinary Studies
USC 26% Business & Marketing, 15% Social Sciences, 13% Visual & Performing Arts, 9% Journalism/Communications, 8% Engineering, 5% Psychology</p>

<p>IS & OOS COST (Tuition & Fees)<br>
UCLA $6,522 USC $35,810
UCLA $25,206 USC $35,810 </p>

<p>TOTAL COLLEGE ENDOWMENT AND PER CAPITA (undergrad and grad)
UCLA $1.85bn ($50,898) USC $3.07bn ($92,907)</p>

<p>AVERAGE HIGH/LOW IN FEBRUARY<br>
UCLA 70-50 USC 70-50</p>

<p>GRADUATION RATES<br>
-% OF STUDENTS EXPECTED TO GRADUATE IN 6 YEARS:
UCLA 88% USC 85%
-% OF STUDENTS WHO DO GRADUATE IN 6 YEARS:
UCLA 87% USC 83%
-% OF STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE IN 4 YEARS:
UCLA 57% USC 61%</p>

<p>FACULTY RESOURCES<br>
-% OF CLASSES WITH <20 STUDENTS
UCLA 51% USC 63%
-% OF CLASSES WITH 50+ STUDENTS
UCLA 21% USC 10%
-FACULTY/STUDENT RATIO<br>
UCLA 18/1 USC 10/1</p>

<p>STUDENT SELECTIVITY<br>
-% ACCEPTANCE RATE<br>
UCLA 26% USC 25%
-SAT/ACT RANGE (Middle 50%)<br>
UCLA 1180-1410 USC 1280-1460
-% OF STUDENTS RANKING IN TOP 10% IN HS CLASS
UCLA 97% USC 86%
% OF STUDENTS WITH HS GPA > 3.75 (Unweighted)
UCLA 91% USC 90%</p>

<h1>OF NMS FINALISTS IN 2005 (% of student body)</h1>

<pre><code>UCLA 114 (1.84%) USC 196 (4.64%)
</code></pre>

<h1>OF 1500 STUDENTS ENROLLED (% of student body)</h1>

<pre><code>UCLA 2791 (11%) USC 1977 (12%)
</code></pre>

<p>ALUMNI GIVING %<br>
UCLA 15% USC 36%</p>

<p>S U B J E C T I V E D A T A </p>

<p>PEER ASSESSMENT<br>
UCLA 4.3 USC 3.9</p>

<p>USC is perhaps the most improved school in the USNWR Top 50 over the past decade. Statistically, USC seems to have the advantage in most measured categories. However, as the OP has indicated a sensitivity to cost, the UCLA advantage is considerable, even for an out-of-state student. But for UCLA's advantage in the subjective Peer Assessment (4.3 to 3.9), USC would almost certainly rank ahead in the USNWR survey. Both are terrific schools and offer an excellent combination of academics, social life, athletic life and warm weather.</p>

<p>Wow. Thank you</p>

<p>Anyone else?</p>