<p>bluebeard, where did you hear that USC recieved 4K more applications than last year? I've haven't yet seen any public announcement by USC of # of apps recieved (most other schools announced their application count over the past 2 months). That would represent a 12% increase, which is pretty large.</p>
<p>the number was in my acceptance letter. i think it was 34,000 which makes me think that i got th number wrong. i think they recieved 32,000 last year, so i think i got the 4 in 34,000 confused.</p>
<p>There were 34,000 applications for the class of 2010 (which was an increase of 7.5% from the previous year). Maintaining that same growth rate would result in about 36,500 applications this year.</p>
<p>According to my experience, USC tends to either state the average SAT Score to be slightly higher or just "round up" in general.</p>
<p>C'mon, it's all propaganda. Public image! Every school does it! When you state a higher % of great SAT scores, the better your school will seem, the better students your school will ATTRACT. God knows how USC has been trying to climb up the latter these last 5 years. Although I do think there are SOME validity to stats on USC's website, I would advice you to disregard the majority. </p>
<p>For example, the unweighted mean GPA is 3.7... well, does that take into account of the number of AP courses the applicant has taken or not? It doesn't state on the website. It's not specific enough for us to get intimidated by this mean.</p>
<p>When the admission officer from USC visited my school last October, he told us that he has seen every application that goes to the school for the last 3 years. (which I highly doubt) He also told me that last year's average SAT score was 2025. Considering that, this year's supposed 2100 isn't too big of a difference. When I asked him who got the lowest SAT score and still got in, he stumbled a bit, and told me that on top of his head, he remembered 1 particular student who was a special case and had a 1850.</p>
<p>I am almost 100% certain that there's people with SAT scores less than 1850 who's gotten in.</p>
<p>Moral of the story, don't let the stats listed on USC's website scare you. Don't let these "admission officer talks" intimidate you either!</p>
<p>I don't quite get what you're saying. Numbers are numbers, if you give the mean SAT...you get the mean SAT. You can "round up" to the nearest 2nd decimal place, but that won't really give you a significantly different number. </p>
<p>Do you mean they intentionally make up phony statistics? That's a pretty serious charge there.</p>
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<p>???...it's unweighted. By definition doesn't matter if the courses are AP or not, that's the typical understanding of the word "unweighted" :)</p>
<p>oh but if you think about it, ucla is a public school and they consider many different things. income, marital status, etc., stuff that has nothing to do with sat stats or grades are taken into account.</p>
<p>especially if you live OUT of state, it's really hard to get in.</p>
<p>it's kind of hard to compare public schools and private schools.</p>
<p>Oh no, I mean that we can't get intimidated by this unweighted 3.7 because we don't know how many AP's these kids with 3.7 or above have taken. For all we know, some people with 10 AP's and a 3.5 unweighted may very well be up there. :)</p>
<p>I don't think they make up phony statistics, but my current Euro teacher (who was once an admission officer at Notre Dame) told me individually that sometimes colleges tend to round UP a bit, such as promoting the unweighted GPA as 3.8 instead of the reality - 3.73</p>
<p>Notre Dame has done it along with many other colleges. It's not a crime to round up from 3.73 to 3.8, but it is a crime to make up numbers. Althought this 1 digit gap may not seem to be much, but I know many CCers are spazzing because they are that .1 behind the average.</p>
<p>actually... a 0.1 increase/decrease in overall gpa might be a semi-big deal. lol that' might give you room for like 2 b's or something depending on the course load you've taken.</p>